Android

It's hard not to feel a tiny bit of schadenfreude, given this project has shilled extremely hard for Google from day one. I will wait to see if the threats of legal action actually amount to anything. GrapheneOS has a history of putting out very aggressive and threatening public statements and never actually backing them up with action. How much of that was down to the founder being a completely unhinged individual is yet to be seen.

Does anyone have experience with Fairphone? Im gonna buy new phone and need recommendation

It would be interesting to see if Graphene OS actually takes legal action. I hope if they do they get other projects involved including Lineage OS and maybe F-droid.

According to Graphene OS, the Compatibility Test Suite and Compatibility Definition Document requirements Google says are key to Play Integrity compliance are in practice routinely ignored, and the system easily bypassed.

Just wanted to say, I use a custom ROM with software on it to circumvent the Play integrity stuff.

Oh no, my device is insecure, there could be malware on it. But people use Windows PCs to access their banking website. I'm sure there can't be any malware on PCs!

I rooted my phone years ago and it was a chore. Once it finally worked, hardly any of my apps would run and nothing important worked because suddenly a rooted phone isn't "safe". It was such a pain in the ass to do updates and fight programs to run that I stopped. I didn't want to spend hours fixing a device that I really didn't want to think about.

I would love to install GrapheneOS and have it mostly just work. I hate having my phone locked down like it's not mine, and it's one of the reasons I won't use it for anything important over my desktop.

Device attestation is pretty annoying fr. It's a constant game of cat and mouse to get it to work on a Custom ROM, whether its on the devs of the ROM, or whoever maintains the magisk modules if you're rooted. I do hope things change about this

Wow, I never thought I'd agree with the devs of GrapheneOS on something

Looking forward to this. I don't run a custom ROM myself but I am rooted, primarily to revoke permissions from Google apps and to back up my OS and app data as I desire.

However I'd much prefer to be able to run something like GrapheneOS on a Pixel if it meant I could run apps that are picky about Safetynet/Play Integrity, such as banking apps and the like

Not gonna like. This is interesting. Who knew that messing with the ROM community could put Google in trouble.

On a personal note, I'm annoyed that our national ID app doesn't work with graphene OS.

There are workarounds by patching out the security check from the app and sideloading the newly created app, but that is just annoying and has to be repeated for every update.

I just don't see how rigorose device checks that lock out graphene users, but allow any Android 8.0+ device (where security support ended more than 3 years ago) make ANY sense.

Edit: I tried it again today, it now lets me skip with a warning about the bootloader.

The site provides a nice TL,DR:

• Efforts like Graphene OS face increasing pressure from apps that refuse to run on non-standard Android.
• The custom ROM project characterizes Google’s approach to device attestation as incomplete and flawed.
• Graphene OS is prepared to take legal action if Google won’t let it pass Play Integrity checks.

It's high time Custom ROMs and users alike did this. I cannot run a custom ROM on my primary device due to play integrity shenanigans some apps may have.