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"We've won, but at what cost?" (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I doubt they would make Google stop paying Mozilla. That would make Google more of a monopoly

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[–] [email protected] 244 points 4 months ago (33 children)

Maybe that's not bad for firefox.

Maybe less money means less ridiculous side projects and just focus on delivering a good browser.

Algo the lack of google as financial support means they'll rely more on donations, which would mean that they really need to focus on offering a good browser.

I'll gladly donate to firefox if I would see they are really focusing on it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Maybe less money means less ridiculous side projects

Like Rust?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

For userland code that basically fingerbangs every server on the web, some forced memory-safety might not be a bad idea

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (16 children)

Oh for fun! I don't want Mozilla to go down, Firefox is one of the few non-Chromium web browsers; I'm glad that Google is pronounced as a monopoly, as it is true. However, for every good thing, there is a terrible curse that shows how much our system needs to be changed. It will be so heartening to not have Apple using Google Search by default, as the results are fucking shit. They could survive the lack of Investor Daddy's cash.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if it will make apple create it’s own search engine or?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I suspect that Apple will choose to open up the choice of what search engine a user would like to use instead of Google. To avoid playing favorites or getting into an oversaturated market.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They could piss all their competitors off by investing a bit into a FOSS add-free search engine (and hosting it) and putting that as default

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

ROFL This is Apple we're talking about, the slowest to innovate in the tech space. That would be a Samsung maneuver, in my opinion (if that giant tech corpo would even consider a FOSS ad-free search engine). Apple is just now getting some customization options this September with an update, something Samsung and third party launchers have pretty much solved years ago.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Let me live in my fantasy land okay?

😂

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I'll let you stare at the stars and imagine a better world then. 😂

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why does this percentage keep going up? Who keeps inflating the numbers? The first time I heard about this, it was like 64%. Then 77%. Now 81%?! Tomorrow, I'm gonna see a meme stating 97% of Mozilla's income is from Google.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The actual numbers are $510MM/y from Google out of $593MM/y total revenue. So 86% if my math is correct. It's bonkers how dependent on a single deal they are.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Are they dependent?

All I see is Google throwing a fuck tonne of money at them, and Mozilla spaffing it on pointless crap. They could probably raise more if Google went away, but they could also reduce spend significantly if they didn't have stupid money get thrown at them.

Its like giving your kids $100 a day. Sure they could blow it on pay to win games, but what would happen if you reduced it to $10 a day? Probably nothing of note, just less spending on crap.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I can't say if they are completely dependent without seeing where the other ~$80MM comes from. If they come from products that require significant staff and server cost, then yes they are fully dependant. If the $$ comes from something they can keep going for much less than ~$80MM, then they are not.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago

Good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

popcorns

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Should we buy Mozilla?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sure, how much could a web browser cost anyways? Here’s $20.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would actually like to know how much it cost. And how much each user "should" pay so it becomes viable.

Though I would really think that public institutions should use firefox as a base browser instead of edge/chrome as being open source is usually a big plus for public agencies that need to really control what's going on in their computers. And thus being a big source of financial support for firefox.