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[–] [email protected] 72 points 4 months ago

Meh. It's just Monopoly money /j

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Which would ironically give even more monopoly over how the web is viewed to Google. Chrome and Firefox are just about the only two players in that space right now.

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[–] [email protected] 155 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Maybe they can stop paying their CEO 7 million per year

[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That CEO quit earlier this year.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they can stop paying the next CEO 7 million

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

well then they can start resetting duckduckgo as the default search engine

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Firefox seems fine now and it's open source. I get that no software is maintenance free, but how much work actually needs to be done each year?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's a valid question. Unfortunately, it's difficult to quantify.

The state of browsers in general has been a moving target since NCSA Mosiac; about around 1993 or so. So the last three decades has been a ceaseless grind of new features, security enhancements, performance enhancements, and so on. And this feature set is absolutely monstrous in scale, as it includes backwards compatibility to most of those features (if not all of) back to that beginning over 30 years ago. So, work on any browser is by definition perennial, and it only ever gets more complex.

For Firefox, well, just take a look at their bug tracker. It's broken down by component, but each link on this page is its own fresh hell of things to do, many of which are barely a year old: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Firefox

I would also argue that the only other software projects that compare to a web browser in terms of sheer scale, compatibility, and longevity, are things like the Linux Kernel or maybe the entire Microsoft Office suite. IMO, software in this class is a lot of work to keep going, no matter how you slice it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Tell me you've never worked on a long-running software project without telling me you've never work on one.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can't just maintain a browser, the web is ever evolving.
That'd be a good way to get left behind. Even now there are technologies that chromium supports and ff doesn't, e.g. the new-ish webusb api. (Actually checking now it is supported as experimental, but my point stands)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I think they dont implement it on purpose

https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

lol is this a joke or are you being serious?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For a browser...

A huge amount

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In my utopia, Google would be forced to continue to pay out the current annual contract sum, at a decreasing percentage every year, for some number of years, to all affected companies, giving them the opportunity to divest and pivot.

The root problem doesn't get fixed if the company with enough money to be a monopolist still has the money when this is "resolved."

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