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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Always that Bing money!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I sincerely hope that is what's going to happen and Mozilla gets severely fucked over for how they have been running their shit. Break their business and rethink from scratch how we run and finance the development of one of the most important pieces of software around. Hint: You're not going to be competitive with big tech by copying their practices, marketing "AI" bullshit and pocket and all that crap. You can't compete with google there, they can always outspend you.

As a Linux user, such a break would also be very timely, now that we have survived the painful surgeries of systemd and wayland. Those problems are mostly fixed, so we need another dysfunctional troublemaker - Firefox it is!

But seriously: The official story is always that google gives Mozilla the money to be the default search engine. But really, they don't need to care. Google needs Firefox so they can pretend they don't have a browser monopoly. For similar reasons, google used to employed 10000s of people who were doing very much non-essential stuff that is entirely irrelevant for their business. They could have fired them all long ago, and massively increased their profitability. But those would have looked obscene and raises regulators' attention. So just hiring a bunch of expensive engineers who build google chat 23.0 and whatever makes them appear more like a "normal" company.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Break their business and rethink from scratch how we run and finance the development of one of the most important pieces of software around.

Or just run them into bankruptcy and dissolve the enterprise.

Hint: You’re not going to be competitive with big tech by copying their practices, marketing “AI” bullshit and pocket and all that crap. You can’t compete with google there, they can always outspend you.

That's sort of the root problem of a monopoly. There's nothing you can practically do to break their hold. They have to fuck up so hard that they lose a significant chunk of their patrons. And in a Walled Garden of an online ecosystem, that's very hard to do.

In a better world, the sanction on Google as "monopoly" would incur an antitrust ruling that breaks them up into multiple smaller firms. This is also what should have happened to Microsoft back in the 90s. Instead, what we're seeing is a wrist-slap that mostly hurts Google's partners, rather than their shareholders.

Google needs Firefox so they can pretend they don’t have a browser monopoly.

Edge provides them enough cover for that. And Mozilla's refusal to adopt the ManifestV3 threatens Google's advertising revenues with a browser that continues to support ad blockers.

So now its time for Mozilla to die.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Hopefully Ladybird turns out well

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'd pay for a browser if it wouldn't sell my data.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I wouldn't mind paying for a browser, but I'm not thrilled with the idea of subscribing to a browser.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

maybe firefox forks already do the trick for you, i've heared there are plenty free ones. no need to pay, but maybe donations are very welcome. also a complete open source solution that is ready to be compiled by anyone could also be patched by anyone for himself to disable a feature heshex dislikes or such.

welcome to free adult world ;-)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, they will have to stop paying their CEO a ridiculous amount of money. TRAGIC.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder if German govt. funds Mozilla
something like the sovereign tech fund for gnome
tax money should improve public infrastructure and Firefox is digitally doing that

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If think of it then there be no competition any more even by a little. If Google Decide to give up on chrome and make there own close Source web engine. Nothing really stopping them as they control the web and search even taking then to count not going make them support the chrome web engine. Firefox just uphill battle even more now as user can't give up ther chrome habits and the forks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

They don't need a brand new closed source browser, chrome is already closed source. Sure, a lot of the heavy lifting is done inside the open source chromium's code , but all the things that turns a profit for Google is the closed source additions (a million kinds of telemetry) .

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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