100%, preferably cuffed.
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And over hot coals.
I'm pretty sure the UK has quite a strong extradition power over the USA. Like all it takes is a British judge to summon someone in the USA for them to be extradited, few questions asked. The USA does have the same power mutually over the UK.
Not really. The extradition agreement is extremely one-sided, in favor of the US.
Not so much in the case of the killer of Harry Dunn.
Wasn't there a diplomatic immunity thing at play?
They claimed it because she was married to a CIA employee.
Kind of free reign to break the law and kill people if you're a relative of a CIA employee. She could have been trialed without any risk to national security, so it's absolutely a BS excuse.
That is kind of mad. I think even staff at an embassy generally don't get immunity, just the diplomats themselves, of which there'd be a small handful even for a large country
This case alone has absolutely tarnished the reputation that the US has in the UK in the eyes of many people. It's something people aren't going to forget for a very long time, and could prove a blocker for cases where the US wishes to extradite in the future.
There is always an extradition hearing if nothing else to ensure it comports with the governing treaty. The US and UK treaty has the usual provisions that it has to be a cognizable crime in America (with Article 2 essentially limiting that to felonies) and can not be political prosecution. Pretty much only militaries can summon someone as you say, and literally only by acting extrajudicially (think black helicopters in the middle of the night making the arrest).
I would settle for a couple of cozzers pulling up in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang to make the arrest
I find it ridiculous that MPs, gov agencies, etc still have active twitter accounts at this point.
If anyone has a Twitter account I deeply judge their morality.
The killer application for Twitter is leaving a forwarding address to mastodon.
Good! Because he is absolutely complicit in the rise of hatred
Chicken shit musk wouldn't step foot on uk soil if this was a thing.
Farage, sitting mere meters away when they return
30p Lee, his arms wide?
When the Greggs fall
Elon Musk the PayPal founder?
He's done a few things since then but rarely makes the news these days.
I'd prefer a good old keel hauling.
He would love it.
I don’t know what it’s going to take for them to understand that.
In a perverse way, I hope Musk shows up and reminds them of order of things - that they exist to serve capital and not the other way around .
I don't get it. Could you explain what you mean by that?
it's a Hexbear user, don't think too hard about them
Head on a pike. Only resolution with which I'll ever be satisfied with all issues Musk.
He would look pretty good decorating Micklegate Bar.
Is Blackberry Messenger still a thing?
Just ban Twitter you fucking cowards
why not both?
That'll move everyone to underground groups and make everything a billion times worse
Not it won't.
The cunts are emboldened because the visibility makes them think they're larger and more accepted than they are. Drive them back to the hinterlands in scattered groups
There's still a censorship element though. The thing is, a large percentage of the British population are tired of the idiotic immigration policies. All the government has done in the past 10 years is make it more difficult for hardworking productive people to move in yet allowing mass illegal immigrants coming from safe countries to come here, barely checked.
Now, don't you dare think I am trying to justify the violence at all. I completely and utterly condemn it. Protest directed towards the government is sensible, violence towards people who were just allowed into the country by said government isn't. Even though it's thuggery, there's still reason fueling it. It's worth remembering that the Reform party came third in vote share.
Better still tax any UK business for advertising with twitter.
By taxing the advertiser musk can't move the revenue to a different nation. And any competitor gains UK customers.
Can't thin, of a clearer don't fuck with UK democracy hint.
Or make them responsible for the comments of users when their moderation is sub par. Which it is.
With the international hosting of social media. Well thats not been possible as they can always be out of your jurisdiction.
If they do business in the UK, they ca n be fined in the UK. It would also encourage other companies to do the same.
Social media companies have abused the trust placed in them. Now he thinks he's infallible.
But that is the point. Companies do not need to do business in the UK.
Swift payment systems make it so easy now that the payer can never be entirly sure where their money goes.
This is how so many big corps are avoiding taxation legally now.
Given the idiots who are paying for checkmarks, and VAT collection, twitter has a UK subdivision (Twitter UK), which regardless of size of operation gives UK Gov jurisdiction.
If someone is compelled to speak to the Commons, it's very very rare that they refuse because if you do - and your host country is an ally - you'll have your government on your back too.
Yep. But they can and will close it if the parliament annoys them. And already avoid taxes by claiming money is not received in the UK. Just like facebook, amazon, google etc. This is way the ASA has little ability to control online advertising.
As for foreign citizens called to parliament. You clearly forgot what happened last time when Zuckerberg just refused. Our allies are really only so when it benefits them.
The difference with Zuckerberg is that there was a change in government shortly after. The people who benefited from Facebook's cosy relationship became the government, and Trump was president.
My point is that given different people in charge powers which exist can be used, whether they will or not is of course what we'll find out.
Sanctioning Musk as an individual could get very funny very quickly.
It could. But won't. Because as I say. Parliment has zero actual power over him.
You make out Zuckerberg was an odd situation.
But honestly. Name an occasion where the UK parliment has had any power to summon the leaders of a non UK company. Even the US Congress has difficulty unless the company actually wants to be summoned. As we have seen with social media companies sending powerless no bodies to their summons.
This is exactly what musk would do. And no way the US would help enforce it. Par.iment dose not have any extradition treatiesrelated to the right to MPs questions.