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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

He was collecting nazi info. bet

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

”fractured arm from a golf course fall”

Pretty much sums it up.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

He knows everything about world war 2 and even collects ww2 memorabilia. So, I can't see how he missed it.

And I mean, he has loads of it. He has that luger, the mp 40, that SS uniform, those nazi flag and even an iron cross.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Reminds me of my ‘historically interested’ family members.

“Hitler was actually a great person”, they say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Encyclopedic knowledge of history doesn't mean historians know how to use logic and crytical thinking.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So it is not on the rise internationally?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

if international to you only means the West and its allies

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No. It’s also on the rise outside of the global West. Indonesia is slowly creeping towards fascism, over the last 20 years they’ve slowly implemented draconian laws. And this year the’ve elected a former genocidal general as president who in the past has openly said he would love to become a dictator. The Philippines after Duterte has no more freedom of press. Same in Thailand, can’t even make a joke about the monarchy without going to jail. Modi has promoted Hindu nationalism in India and stoked ethnic violence. Uganda and Nigeria has introduced stricter laws against the LGBTQ (these kind of laws are precursors to the rise of fascism) Argentina has voted in a wannabe fascist as president who is nostalgic for the days when Argentina was under dictatorial rule. Fascism is slowly on the rise across the globe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For a lot of Americans, that map only highlights the USA.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

They do it with Baseball, true.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

WW2 people missed WW2 coming and they'd just gotten out of WW1 twenty years prior.

You can cut 70 year old History Channel nerds a bit of slack.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't have any sources at hand, but I'm pretty sure Europeans saw a second war with Germany coming years before it started.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Nah. I hear the french actually just whipped up the maginot line the day before the war kicked off.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)

As an uncle who knows something about WWII and also notices the current rise in fascism, I must point out there is an error in the article:

At press time, Poppavich signed up for a local history group’s WWII reenactment, requesting a position within the Axis powers, specifically the USSR since he “likes Putin’s style.”

Actually, the USSR was not an axis power during the war. They were one of the Allies on the side of Great Britain and the US. The Axis was Germany, Italy, and Japan

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They were one of the Allies on the side of Great Britain and the US.

eventually. after Hitler attacked them. Stalin believed German wouldn't attack SO FUCKING MUCH, he ignored warnings from Poland, The US, the UK and more. I read somewhere he even had people executed for it but also this is during the time of great purges, so honestly they were probably going to be executed regardless, just Stalin things I guess.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-13862135

https://www.history.com/news/how-stalin-was-caught-napping

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I assume that’s a joke in the article not an error

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

TIL Putin is older than he looks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

He is in his 70s if I am not mistake.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The Soviets initially signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, in '39, after Stalin concluded that the old Allied alliance of WW1 was functionally dead and the US/UK's government wasn't going to put up a fight against German encroachment.

A lot of American liberals took that to mean Stalin was a German ally, intent on carving up Europe between them. And there's ample period propaganda with Hitler and Stalin in cahoots. One famous bit even has them getting married.

The "Trump/Putin Kissing" meme is an echo of these critiques.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Molotov-Ribbentrop was a non-aggression territorial and economic agreement, not an alliance. One that every knowledgeable historian agrees was seen by the signees as temporary (except possibly by Stalin's drunk ass)

It was not an alliance, they were not in the Axis, and any suggestion otherwise is suspect especially in this context.

Shit, the first thing that happened between them after the invasion of Poland was the Winter War where Finland was supplied by Germany and was a hair's breadth and some racism away from joining the Axis itself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It was not an alliance, they were not in the Axis

It was a detente that allowed Germany to focus its military expansion into Poland and France without fear of a Russian counterattack.

If you want to really bust balls, you could easily argue that America was a German ally, given how influential Ford, IBM, and Standard Oil were in getting the German war machine off the ground. But that's something of an argument for M-R, as Russia wasn't in a position to fight a war with both Germany and America (any more than Germany was able to years later). German expansion into France ruined its relationship with the US and allowed the Soviets to broker a deal with FDR. And the rest is history.

Shit, the first thing that happened between them after the invasion of Poland was the Winter War where Finland was supplied by Germany

That was a bit more complicated, as it was initiated by the Russians with the intent of installing a Soviet-friendly government as a buffer zone around Leningrad. The war ended in Russian defeat and - after Germany broke the non-aggression treaty - very nearly cost them Leningrad as a result.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

if you want to really bust balls, you could easily argue that America was a German ally, given how influential Ford, IBM, and Standard Oil were in getting the German war machine off the ground.

if you follow that logic, then Krupps started WW1 and WW2.

But actually, well, they kinda did. Read: The Arms of Krupps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

But actually, well, they kinda did.

The hard truth about war profiteering

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The war ended in Russian defeat

The Winter War did not end in Russian defeat. After initially getting slapped around by Finland, the USSR committed more troops and forced Finland to concede to all of the Soviets' initial territorial demands (and more).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You two are going a bit two deep responding to a clueless teenager-level attempt at humor that gets published by that site.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

You expect me to pass up an opportunity to pontificate upon the Winter War? As if!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Stay out of the way it’s about to get physical.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let me hear your body talk!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the ducking ear worm

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Pyrrhic Victory, then, given the costs. It did not meaningfully improve their security, as Leningrad was under siege by the Germans shortly thereafter.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Learning about WWII doesn't teach you how the most progressive, industrialized society in the world at the time, and possibly ever, became fascist. For that you need to learn about WWI, the failed Spartacist uprising from 1917-1923, and the following period where the Nazis rose to power and the last remnants of the USPD and KPD were destroyed.

So unless your uncle is a fan of Rosa Luxemburg, he's probably clueless

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Learning about WWII doesn’t teach you how the most progressive, industrialized society in the world at the time, and possibly ever, became fascist.

But enough about Spain.

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