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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

It's starting to look like a hockey stick, isn't it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In 2 months, it has increased by over 0.5%

If the growth continues, it will reach 100% in 30 years!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My god, does that mean we'll be at 200% in 60 years?😱

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

In 120 years, people will each have 4 linux computers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

It feels really good to be a part of this wave!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Idk why am enjoying linux more then windows

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I really really hope this will lead to some major UX improvements as more "normal people" start trying to use Linux. Currently, it's still often too complicated or cumbersome, if not downright buggy.

Example: I run Kubuntu and about 20% of the time when I plug in my external monitors, all my windows just crash. Things need to get to a state of "just working" much more often and in many more cases. I hope this surge of users will motivate people to move towards that or maybe bring in more contributors to advance that area.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I installed a new GPU and it changed the device name of my NIC so all my network setup suddenly broke.

Now every ~5th time I wake my computer from sleep the monitor comes on briefly and I then get a black screen. If I turn the monitor off and back on it fixes it.

Would be cool to have more people on Linux finding and fixing these little details.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Would be cool to have more people on Linux finding and fixing these little details.

Unlikely to happen. This is very complicated low level stuff that's often completely undocumented. Often the hardware is buggy but it works with Windows/Mac because that's what it's been tested with, so you're not even implementing a spec, you're implementing Windows' implementation.

Also the few people that have the knowledge to do this a) don't want to spend a ton of money buying every model of monitor or whatever for testing, and b) don't want to spend all their time doing boring difficult debugging.

I actually speak from experience here. I wrote a semi-popular FOSS program for a type of peripheral. Actually it only supports devices from a single company, but... I have one now. It cost about £200. The other models are more expensive and I'm not going to spend like £3k buying all the other models so I can test it properly. The protocol is reverse engineered too so.. yeah I'll probably break it for other people, sorry.

This sort of thing really only works commercially IMO. It's too expensive, boring and time consuming for the scratch-an-itch developers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If Linux adoption reaches a critical mass then the manufacturers will start fixing these issues themselves. If Linux was 30% of all users and AMD paid a team to fix Linux support, they would eat the competition alive, but if Linux is 3% it doesn't make sense for them to devote resources to fixing Linux.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

True but it'll have to be like 10% and I don't see that happening ever really. Unless Microsoft really screws up, which to be fair they are doing their best.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

KDE isn't focused as much on stability or having a clean UI. However, it is very customizable.

If you want something easier look at gnome or cinnamon

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

clean UI

I personally find their UI much cleaner than Gnome or cinnamon, but to each their own.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I run Kubuntu and about 20% of the time when I plug in my external monitors, all my windows just crash.

This one's weird.
GPU issue? Or something with older OS?

I use KDE and have never seen a similar problem.

Sure, stuff may get wonky, but crashing windows on monitor detection is a big deal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a Framework laptop (Intel GPU) with Arch and KDE, and while I’ve never seen all windows crash when connecting an external monitor, I wouldn’t call it out of the ordinary for one or two to crash after I connect one, especially if I try to drag one to a new position right after.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I never had such a problem with my old laptop (which had a burnt out nVidia GPU and was running on the Intel iGPU), so could it be a regression with Wayland.

I gotta check this out. Guess I'm going to wear down a DP connector this week!

I can no longer check it on the Laptop though (died), but on my AMD system, so at least if the problem is actually KDE, it should show up. Otherwise, I'll just count myself unlucky and unable to reproduce.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Generation 10. I also have issues with the fan going to max at random times and generally a bad time when trying to hook it up to its docking station.

See also some previous threads I've written, here and here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

ThinkPad X1 Carbon Generation 10

And that's ~2 years old too, so Ubuntu should usually not be a problem.

Interesting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yeah there's no way I trust their methodology has stayed that stable over 15 years. Hell if you just look in the last year supposedly 3% of global users jumped from Mac to Windows in a single month (Nov 2023).

There are also loads of new Linux device classes that may have Linux in their user agent but aren't really "the year of the Linux desktop" that you're thinking of. It seems they try to count ChromeOS (though badly - seems like "Unknown" contains a lot of ChromeOS depending on the month), and obviously Android, but what about Steam Deck? Smart devices with web browsers built in? Is your Tesla desktop Linux?

I'd buy it's gone up; not to 4% though. I would be moderately surprised if 4% of web users had even heard of Linux.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

The year of the Linux desktop I'm thinking of was like 2008. That was then it became perfectly usable on the desktop and I haven't had to switch back since.

I don't understand why anyone care's what Linux's "market share" is. It's open source, no one makes money when someone installs Linux.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Same, I'd like to see this compared to other sources. Steam also tends to swing wildly based on the Chinese market

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I would be moderately surprised if 4% of web users had even heard of Linux.

Patently absurd

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

In 2424 108.5% of people will use linux 👍

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Why would you use a linear approximation, this clearly looks like exponential growth (for the last 9 years).

Linux will obviously achieve 100% market share within the next few years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s data extrapolation time!

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