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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The greatest proof we have that the United States was the First Nation to land a man on the moon and did so in July of 1969 is that their primary geopolitical enemy had beaten them at every previous step in the space race and didn’t contest it. If there was a chance that any aspect of it was faked the USSR would’ve used it as propaganda and a cudgel. Instead they confirmed the moon landing. It may be hard for some people to believe we set foot on the moon, but it’s much harder to believe the ussr covered America’s ass on this one.

It’s actually the same basic evidence that we have that Yuri Gagarin was the first human to go into outer space alive and return alive. If it hadn’t happened the United States would’ve contested it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

But instead they both lie about the roundness of the world because reasons. Something something firmament

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

imo, that's why flat earth stuff usually doesn't make sense at its core. how do you explain that all those governments from around the world that hate each other all collectively agreed to lie to you

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay, just to go full conspiracy theorist on you for a second:

The USSR could've covered USA's ass on this because their own achievements were fake too, and they didn't want it to come out

I don't have any evidence for this, nor do I believe it myself, but just playing devil's advocate here

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That doesnt work in the long term unless you kill everyone that knows about it. Its a weak plan at best.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh that's definitely true, but that could be said for literally every conspiracy theory, ever.

My comment was working on the assumption that you already believe in conspiracy theories, and was meant to explain how one could then rationalize this particular one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Well assume I do and that was my response. I'm sure thats not all it takes to convince someone a conspiracy isn't true.

How do conspiracy folk answer that counterpoint?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The issue with this Is that it implies the moon is even real in the first place

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fuck, one of my sisters coworkers said some crazy shit like that. Saying space is a hologram.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Space hologram is just idiot speak for collective hallucination. We can't properly perceive the great old ones. Wake up before the moon dose or its over for humanity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

The moon has seen all past, present, and future. All realities are know by the old moon.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

...and the USA, and the USSR ! So many assumptions make for a very feeble theory imho

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