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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/26211900

[Transphobia Warning] Nutomic’s Stance on Transgender People

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The developer is expressing their opinion on their instance using their software. The beauty of federation and the software he has crrated is that you can build a community that you want.you never have to interact with or his instance.

This post is drama for the sake of drama.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He receives thousands of dollars in donations to make the software. I’d rathe people start supporting software developers made by non bigots

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's a weird place to draw the line. You probably use all kinds of products with scumbag companies and owners yet you draw the line at a guy's Foss project which has nothing to do with his views and the project barely makes min wage yet serves tens of thousands of people.

You don't need to withdraw your support because you already do nothing to support. Again I think you are creating drama for the sake of drama. The guy is an open Communist and you are shocked that he's transphobic.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The guy is an open Communist and you are shocked that he’s transphobic.

Plenty of communists are not transphobic and most of the open communists I know are trans themselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I know I was pointing to that to show extreme views I didn't intend to say Communists were transphobic or bad people.

I know a lot of communists are extremely progressive and tbh I thought he was to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

that ~~post~~message from nutomic is a classic demonstration of the horseshoe theory.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Why do they go through the effort of banning people from individual communities when site banning should be enough? It honestly just comes across as vindictive.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Just like when hexbear.net called them out on different terrible takes (ie what counts as csam and other awful mods)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I just got banned from [email protected] for posting that screenshot

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

general rule of thumb is that if you see a .ml community there's always a better one on another domain even if there's not.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I will be joining in :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Linux doesn’t seem like the correct community for it but it could’ve been deleted it’s so weird they would ban you for that

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I mean to say that I posted the screenshot from the original post

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I've said before that I could add piefed support to Interstellar (it already had Lemmy and mbin support). The only thing I need is an api.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Honest question: Why does it matter if he's a transphobe when choosing which Fediverse software to use? The software is FOSS and anyone can make their own instance. I don't understand why his social views outside of sharing the software and protecting it from becoming proprietary matters when deciding what Fediverse software to use.

I'm not arguing my stance. I really want to understand what I might be missing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Honest question: Why does it matter if he's a transphobe when choosing which Fediverse software to use?

  1. Because some people have actually financially supported him. I'm not trans, but I would be devastated to know that my money went to feed someone who wants to destroy me.
  2. I already have trouble convincing transgender people in my social circle that Lemmy as a software is safe for them to use even with the variety of trans-inclusive servers like yours, and will be safe and inclusive in the future.

A great example of (2) is the fate of PolyMC. Thankfully, the other developers forked it into Prism, but transphobia put that whole project in jeopardy for a bit.

The software is FOSS and anyone can make their own instance.

IMO that's why I'm not immediately dropping my account and running for the hills, but it's still not good. Most people don't have the technical skills or the interest in learning them to run their own instance.

I really want to understand what I might be missing.

IMO it's that even though he does not personally control how Lemmy instances are run, and even though we do have a good degree of robustness to transphobia because the software is FOSS, it is still both morally and technically ill-advised to have a transphobe at the helm of an open-source software project.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because he's the developer. He can easily change a line of code to exploit users and servers across the fediverse. Sure, some may notice immediately, but others won't.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Because he's the developer. He can easily change a line of code to exploit users and servers across the fediverse.

This can be done by anyone, and applies to any platform. It's not a problem unique to Lemmy.

I also don't see how transphobia and backdooring everyone are at all related.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Right. Exactly. That's why who develops things matters. Conduct at a project level dictates what comes of the things developed. The fact that this platform is developed by transphobes is a big FUCKING deal and is why I have hope for PieFed and Sublinks because they have actual factual solidarity and decency as core values.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

The fact that this platform is developed by transphobes is a big FUCKING deal

Not really. Usually the issue is the platform devs also control the instances/servers but that isn't the case here.

The code isn't transphobic. The code is code. We shouldn't reject perfectly good code because we don't like who wrote it. That's just giving the software solely to the people who do to the detriment of everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When people are successful, sometimes their ideas are too. They become a sort of standard, or justified. While I speak only for myself, I think some folks feel like if this guy's projects are successful he could use that success to oppres people. It happened to fluffy JK Rowling.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for explaining. What's the relevant story with JK Rowling?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

JK uses her platform (harry potter fame) to denigrate and oppress trans women (probably more). She regularly engages anti trans exchanges on public twitter. Considering the reach HP has for children, it could give her considerable chance to promote bigotry. Look up TERF.

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