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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Anecdotally, in Ohio yes, plenty of people I know hold the belief that if your parents or grandparents were immigrants, you can't be president. Which is of course why they had a problem with "Barack Hussein Obama" (they always have to add emphasis on the middle name for some reason) and had nothing to do with him being black.

It's mental gymnastics all the way down, I stopped trying to understand.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Its because of Sadam Hussein as if he was somehow named after Iraq's dictator.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Personally, I think it's partly that, partly just the knee-jerk "OMG THAT'S A MOOSE-LIMB NAME REEE" they feel when they hear any sort of foreign sounding name that has any vague "middle eastern" sound to it.

And of course the actual origin of names doesn't matter, I've seen plenty of people assume traditional celtic or even scandanavian names are "from Africa"

Both points summed up: racism

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There was a dude I liked and kinda respected up until about 2008. His entire argument was "OBAMA OSAMA!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

No joke, the first time I ever heard my mother say anything about a politician, it was "Huh. Sounds like Osama..."

Of course her entire worldview is religion based, so no surprise how she votes.

And of course all the small town Bible belt highschoolers would say "Obama Bin-Laden" like they were just oh-so-clever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I think I'm gonna print a tee of this crying maga figure for November when Harris kicks his ass

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Fred Trump was born in New York, Mary Anne MacLeod was born in Scotland. It was Trump's Granddad, Frederick who immigrated from Bavaria.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

The brothel guy?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago

Trump's wives are immigrants. His kids are anchor babies.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Technically only his mother was an immigrant, born in Scotland. His father was born in the US.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Both trumps grandparents were german immigrants

Father was german heritage, blood, ancestry. Just born in USA. Didn’t think american’s counted that these days

German Grandfather + German Grandmother -> Father (Fred) born in the US. Full “german blood”.

mother was scottish heritage, blood, ancestry. Born in scotland. Literally not american

Scottish Grandfather + Scottish Grandmother -> Mother (Mary) born in Scotland. Full “Scottish blood”.

Trump is a mix of german and scottish heritage. Literally zero american heritage except his dad happened to be born in the USA.

But I thought republicans hated immigrants? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which we know for a fact based on MAGA weirdos being fine with Trump's immigrant wives.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

They do love their Russians.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

This is the only explanation.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Trump's parents are old enough to be Kamala's grandparents and are therefore from the time when immigrants were good (white).

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

from the time when immigrants were good (white)

Not quite — there was a ton of Irish immigration, and they were not considered white. https://sites.pitt.edu/~hirtle/uujec/white.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Doesn't that get retconned as "good, actually" when the arbitrary definition of whiteness expands to include them (because the racists don't have enough power without)? Repubs claim Southern Strategy never happened while voting for an overt Obama birther racist. They don't give a single fuck about historical accuracy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

And from the time when German immigrants were... well... a lot more racist.