Does lemmy.world really have that many USAmericans?
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Yes, it's generally American Radical Liberals (not to be confused with leftists).
Where are you getting this from? Are there any stats available or something?
Try saying Joe Biden is complicit in Genocide when he sends more weapons to israel, and find out how many people on .world appreciate the factually correct statement.
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I would be interested to see, but it's fairly obvious when you visit Lemmy.world and 80% of posts are about US Electoral Politics, and the content of these posts generally is aligned with liberalism, not leftism.
Just checked: yep, lots of posts about US politics :/ So annoying. I'm on mbin, so no way to block lemmy.world, but I do block every community/magazine dedicated to US politics.
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I wrote in "Gaza" on the primary, but come november I am 100% sure that I'm gonna be voting D as hard as I can because my partner is trans and I'd rather not be driven from the country by transphobia, thanks.
Criticising the democrats for when they're not good is absolutely valid, but at the same time, get out and vote for them and mobilize as many voters for them as you can, because the difference in outcome between the two parties with legitimate chances of winning is too great to throw away your votes protesting the lesser of two evils. By all means, keep protesting (In other ways, besides the ballot box), but also do your part to make sure that we get the lesser of two evils, not the greater.
Nobody is talking about "criticizing Democrats". We're talking about active censorship of criticism of the Democratic party, because of their support of israel.
When you go on .world you find people not just saying what you are saying, but enthusiastically praising Biden as one of the greatest presidents of all time and lying about him standing up to israel. And that gets upvoted.
Violence against trans individuals has increased under Biden. That isn't because Biden is "tougher on trans issues," it's because the DNC is doing absolutely nothing to prevent the root cause of fascism from rising, which is decaying Capitalism.
Vote for whoever you want, but if you want to protect your partner, you'll likely get best results by living in a blue area of a blue state, regardless of who is in the federal office.
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The lemmy.world news mods are absolutely biased, break their own rules blatantly, and clearly support a left/far-left agenda.
That said, it's pretty unnecessary to hide genocide when the ICJ hasn't ruled one occurred yet.
Liberal Zionism is not left. Right-wing or far-right is where it is.
Not surprising a Zionist would show up to claim there's no Genocide and sprinkle in more disinformation.
What do you mean that Lemmy.world is now "far-left?" They've always been extremely liberal, not left.
Additionally, we don't need to wait on the ICJ to see 200,000 dead Palestinians.
Please read more carefully. I did not say "is now..." and the civilian casualty count is nowhere near 200k but rather closer to 40k.
Edit: But I also agree they are liberal too.
Oh, so you just think liberalism is far-left, ie you're far-right, gotcha.
As for the causalties, estimates have put it at 186,000.
Edit: called it
Reuters vs Aljazeera... I wonder which is the more believable news source, particularly with regards to Israel events.
edit: Without getting into the weeds Liberalism and Left/Right are usually considered separate spectrums and the definition varies wildly depending on where you're from.
"Israel events?" This encompasses Palestinian deaths at the hands of Israel, calling it "Israel events" seems like suspicious framing.
Is the source the only part you take issue with, not the numbers?
🙄 Have a nice day.
Leaving when you get called out for supporting genocide, lmao
Just now, the IDF has rioted against being held accountable for raping Palestinians, and lawmakers ultimately defended the IDF's right to rape Palestinian prisoners.
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I agree. Let's support Trump, the person who legalised the West Bank occupation.
When I use my sarcasm-detector on your comment, I get a reading of 3.6. Not great, not terrible.
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You don't have to support Biden or Trump if genocide is a red line for you.
If you don't vote, it means you are ok with either one and don't care enough either way to go to the ballot.
Not voting it's not a third option, it's a statement that you don't care about either of the two options. Voting a third candidate is instead simply useless and in practice amounts to the same thing as not voting or voting with a blank ballot.
So in practice the options are: voting for the Democrats, voting for the Republicans, doing nothing and being ok with either one winning or leaving the fucking country.
If you don't vote, it means you are ok with either one and don't care enough either way to go to the ballot.
I plan on voting, my point is that disaffected leftists voting for third parties or refusing to support genocide does not mean support for Trump.
Not voting it's not a third option, it's a statement that you don't care about either of the two options. Voting a third candidate is instead simply useless and in practice amounts to the same thing as not voting or voting with a blank ballot.
Not quite accurate. Voting third party signals that third party platforms are more popular, and can shift the larger parties.
So in practice the options are: voting for the Democrats, voting for the Republicans, doing nothing and being ok with either one winning or leaving the fucking country.
Not entirely true, Electoralism is perhaps the least effective way to gain major change. Organizing and mass protesting can get meaningful change, same as striking. Forcing concessions is the way true change has occured historically, not simply at the ballot box.
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You will, however, be politically impotent in that case. Checking out of democracy because one option is only incrementally better than the other isn't really helping anyone.
What do you mean by "checking out of democracy?"
As for Kamala being less evil, this is true, yes. However, what's the plan, long-term? Just keep voting for increasingly right-wing ghouls, as long as they aren't as bad as the GOP, until the GOP inevitably wins again?
If you want democrats to be a certain way, vote for those democrats in primaries and local elections. You have to fix it from the bottom up and from within.
This is historically inaccurate, though. You can't fix the party from within, because the DNC will always serve its donors. Voting for slightly more progressive democrats won't actually change that fact.
Then I'd say your options are relocate to somewhere with a more appealing government or cede electoral power to others. Third parties are irrelevant on the national scale, and only slightly less so on the state scale.
Agitate for RCV or other election reforms that make third parties more relevant, but until that's the case I'll stand by my earlier assertions.
Then I'd say your options are relocate to somewhere with a more appealing government or cede electoral power to others. Third parties are irrelevant on the national scale, and only slightly less so on the state scale.
The Left has no electoral power in a system dominated by financial interests. The DNC does not represent the Left.
Agitate for RCV or other election reforms that make third parties more relevant, but until that's the case I'll stand by my earlier assertions.
Why would the DNC or GOP weaken their own standing?
Exactly. I agree 100%. The system is what it is and it will only change over the course of lifetimes, not years. Unless your solution is violent revolution in which case I'd still say to also cast meaningful votes based on some criteria of your choosing. I guess you could vote Republican on the hopes a fascist America would more quickly be overthrown internally or externally. That sounds like a terrible timeline to live through, though.
The system is what it is and it will only change over the course of lifetimes, not years.
Capitalism likely will not last that long. The US is losing its Hegemony and the Global South is increasingly acting in their own interests.
Unless your solution is violent revolution in which case I'd still say to still also cast meaningful votes based on some criteria of your choosing.
Revolution will likely eventually occur, it's not something I can just force into happening. Who I vote for will not materially change that course. I do plan on voting, but even if I vote for PSL it won't materially move the Revolution up the schedule.
I guess you could vote Republican on the hopes a fascist America would more quickly be overthrown internally or externally. That sounds like a terrible timeline to live through, though.
Accelerationism is dangerous thinking that quickly backfires. Organizing is still by far the most important duty of Leftists.
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Holy false dichotomy, Batman!
Holding domestic non-fascist politicians accountable for enabling the war crimes of foreign fascists ≠ supporting domestic fascists.
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