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Mozilla adds stupid AI stuff with horrible T&C (lemdro.id)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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PSA (?): just got this popup in Firefox when i was on an amazon product page. looked into it a bit because it seemed weird and it turns out if you click the big "yes, try it" button, you agree to mandatory binding arbitration with Fakespot and you waive your right to bring a class action lawsuit against them. this is awesome thank you so much mozilla very cool

https://queer.party/@m04/112872517189786676

So, Mozilla adds an AI review features for products you view using Firefox. Other than being very useless, it's T&C are as anti-consumer as it possibly can be. It's like mozilla saying directly "we don't care about your privacy".

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I actually use fakespot a lot, but will never install an add-on for this.

I got that notice a few months ago, but I didn't use either button on the bottom. I used the X on the top, and haven't seen it since.

I thought we were done with the age of Toolbars, but here we are, back there. An app or add-on for every damn thing. No, I don't want this integrated into my browser. No, I don't need your HTML5 app on my phone to do less than the webpage does. No, I don't want your spyware app to view the one-off Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram link a friend sends me. No, I don't mean 'maybe later', I mean 'no forever'.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

but here we are, back there.

The upside is that if you're ever prompted to install a thing to your browser to use a site's features, it's because the built-in sandbox is too restrictive for what they want. It's an immediate red flag.

I also view prompts to "use our (phone) app" the same way. I'm already seeing your site, in my browser, with ten different kinds of adblock and tampermonkey scripts running. I already have what I want, and I'm not letting you anywhere near my data plan.

Clearly, it's time for a "no means no" extension.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

i did not get a pop up on a amazon page maybe a us only thing idk but its ironic how firefox advertises Privacy related feature

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm thinking this might be a nightly experiment/recommended extension?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Prob

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (3 children)

didn't the Firefox management say they would focus on their core product rather than random little services like this

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Actually I thought there new ceo said they were going to fuck around with AI stuff.

Edit:

https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/13/mozilla-downsizes-as-it-refocuses-on-firefox-and-ai-read-the-memo/?guccounter=1

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah but to be fair they bought this years ago. Just took them forever to integrated. I suspect any changes in direction will truly show in 3-4 years, once the current backlog (no don't look at my company's Jira, TYVM! 😑 ) is cleared.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

At this point, I'm glad I switched to Mull on my phone. It took a bit of overcoming the resistance of using Firefox for decades (Stockholm syndrome), but I don't miss Firefox one bit.

Now I need to do that on my desktop, but I'm still shopping. Librewolf? Palemoon? Ice Weasel? What are folks here trying out these days?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Isn't Mull basicslly Firefox since it's just a Firefox-based fork? The UI seems to be identical to me - don't notice any other differences on my phone

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Yes, it's Firefox without the bullshit.

It's ironic that Firefox started the same way, actually.

When Netscape open sourced its browser and then fucked it up, some folks took the source code and built "Phoenix," much, much later becoming Firefox.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Lots of love for librewolf here.

Strong fingerprint resistance breaks a lot of sites so just get used to disabling that on whatever sites.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

On Android I am using Waterfox. Still looking for alternatives on desktop.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Mullvad Browser is pretty good on desktop.

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