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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There's a few problems with this. Two I can identify right off the bat:

  1. Just because you're passionate about something doesn't mean you're good at it. I don't want the William Hung of medicine doing my surgery.

  2. By artificially limiting the supply of doctors you are increasing demand and salaries (I agree this seems morally wrong a priori/prima facie, especially for something like health care that is a public good). However when the salaries drop then you reduce incentive for smart people going into the field, which has already been happening in medicine for decades. The top of the class that would've become the brilliant physician in the 20th century is your 21st century finance bro. AKA brain drain. (See also point 1.)

I do agree that it is wrong for people to be unable to pursue careers due to the misfortune of their station of birth. I don't know how to fix it other than funding public education.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Same deal as sexism. Even if you get in, your work will probably be stolen or you will be pushed out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

"Passion"... What a concept!?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Capitalism is a method for the control of information. If information were given freely, like as in an actually civilized society not full of fucking barbarians, the world would be a much better place.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not only that, but think of all the intelligent people that could have done something to revolutionize a field but instead work in finance.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Or real estate, advertising, etc.

Capitalism wastes talent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Have to ensure the only ones who can make it to the "big leagues" see unbridled late Stage Capitalism as a perfect system cause THEY made it (on their parents dime.)

If you let people into the upper echelon IN SPITE Of the system working against them they may point out they're an exception to the rule.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I never followed xkcd but there really is one for every occasion 😂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Why would the elite class want the plebs to learn medicine or law?

Just you try and open a state law school or med school in these times. It might work out but private interests are going to fight it with full force. It'll be a constant corporate media backlash about the state doesn't need any more lawyers and how much tax money it will cost.

Fighting stuff like this is why they buy tv stations and newspapers

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This isnt a unique capitalist problem.

This is power dynamics 101.

The capitalism version of this problem is not even the worst version

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is a super important point. As fucking brutal as capitalism is, any move backward will only make things worse. The only thing we can see with any clarity in the past is the church anyway (which was like a thousand year nightmare) since they took the evidence for everything else and won't let anyone see it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Sure, so let's go beyond Capitalism into Socialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We won’t to move forwards to a leftist society, not backwards to some right wing authoritarian shitheap.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I think about this all the time with everything from professions to entertainment. I watch a lot of F1 and those guys are always called the best/most talented drivers in the world, and all I can think of is how the most talented driver in the world is probably a poor kid in India or China who’s starving to death that will never have the chance to develop that talent let alone drive a car.

We are missing out on so many brilliant minds because capitalism requires them to be at the bottom. Meritocracy isn’t real and never will be.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Just watched a Bad Sports episode where a champion race driver couldn't break into the sport without become a drug trafficker to pay for it. So yeah that's already happened, just in Florida.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That one is actually weird.

People with more education draw higher salaries. That only works because employers make a higher profit with better educated people. Which means that for profit-maximization, you want to have a pool of potential employees that is maximally well-educated on the expense of someone else. Note the push for more STEM graduates.

You'd think businesses would be all for tax-funded education for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That only works because employers make a higher profit with better educated people.

Only to a certain degree. Exxon's been happy to lay off engineers and programmers by the thousands with the downturn in energy markets. However, they've always got a door open for entry level rig workers and cargo ship deck hands, as these jobs are higher risk and lower reward.

Educated professionals have their place, but sometimes you just need someone to turn a wrench. And because these low-skill jobs are more fungible, the businesses have an easier time swapping out younger and less experienced workers for their more expensive veteran peers.

This is what ultimately keeps labor rates in low-skill industries down. As jobs become more formulaic - more assembly-line driven - the wages commanded by the people doing that labor falls, in an unregulated labor market. Education-added-value has far less to do with it than the fungibility of the person doing the job.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The business of student loans is far too profitable and powerful to just quietly go away in favor of your thesis.

I do like your thought process though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Interesting point. This is consistent with a "Corporate Feudalism" chart I saw recently (and am still digesting/making up my mind on), which puts central bank heads, and then major bank heads at the top two places in the power hierarchy. Corporate CEOs (who might see benefit from a more educated work force) are in 3rd place. World leaders are 4th.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

One can argue that we have two kinds of capitalism. And that would be true for the classic, theoretical capitalism.

However, the modern one favors short term profit and stock prices. Which do not care if economies collapse in 20 years due to global warming, as long as the profit is good now.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

Even the people that can afford it no longer want to work in the industry because capitalism has made them entirely profit oriented and very unrewarding to be a part of, both financially and spiritually.

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