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Empowering you to choose a better internet where privacy is the default. Protect yourself online with Proton Mail, Proton VPN, Proton Calendar, Proton Drive. Proton Pass and SimpleLogin.

Proton Mail is the world's largest secure email provider. Swiss, end-to-end encrypted, private, and free.

Proton VPN is the world’s only open-source, publicly audited, unlimited and free VPN. Swiss-based, no-ads, and no-logs.

Proton Calendar is the world's first end-to-end encrypted calendar that allows you to keep your life private.

Proton Drive is a free end-to-end encrypted cloud storage that allows you to securely backup and share your files. It's open source, publicly audited, and Swiss-based.

Proton Pass Proton Pass is a free and open-source password manager which brings a higher level of security with rigorous end-to-end encryption of all data (including usernames, URLs, notes, and more) and email alias support.

SimpleLogin lets you send and receive emails anonymously via easily-generated unique email aliases.

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Introducing Proton Wallet – a safer way to hold Bitcoin (proton.me)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I at least appreciate that the very first header is "Why build Proton Wallet?".

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Cool experiment - But why released an unpolished product? This is a weird trend, like ya'll went from developing like snails (still waiting on Proton Calendar for iPadOS) to releasing new expansions faster than even the most micro-transaction hungry video game developers. Docs, Scribe (which a lot of AI skeptics are still getting a hang of, deeply appreciated but AI-branding x black box data usage takes some getting used to. Also not a new product, more an expansion for email) and now... a Bitcoin Wallet?

Very cool but since the norm for Google-centered users/digital citizens is a (perhaps illusory) degree of separation of personal and financial organization, having it as part of the Proton Suite instead of a well-integrated but separate service (or for the option to be like Scribe) is a hard pill to swallow (especially since it's Bitcoin).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Personally very glad to see them roll out this feature. Bitcoin offers pretty decent privacy out of the box, especially with lightning. Like using any technology, using it in a fully private and anonymous way requires some attention to detail. The ability to send/receive BTC from other users knowing only their e-mail address is pretty cool. And the self-custody element is critical.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Makes sense, a lot of alternatives are sketchy and I think many people don't realise that Bitcoin transactions are by no means private by default.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is the same "private" company which has been ignoring over 2000+ people's votes for Monero support. It's ironic how they are now making a cryptocurrency wallet for bitcoin.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

The reason they don't support Monero was adressed in a recent podcast "OptOut" with the CEO of Proton.

TLDR; they fear the biggest companies for auditing their finances, won't work with them if they do. Which is reasonable, they are a business after all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

What a terrible, stupid, and useless idea.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Uhmm can we got Proton Drive for Linux first please??

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Can we please get full parity between the webapps and the native apps on iOS? The damn calendar widget on iOS?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or make it work properly on Mac?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What are the issues on Mac?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I tried transferring from iCloud to the drive and lost a lot of files. Granted I should have been smarter, and cloud to cloud might not be a good idea. I get errors often when trying to save things to it, although often it actually worked, so I don’t know why I get the error.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I wish I could use it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What the hell is Proton's direction?

I didn't really care about Scribe but this is just so off-brand. Just what.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They said in the Reddit post that further down the road they want to implement something like Google wallet, and possibly proton pay, that would allow for credit card aliases. I think the Bitcoin solution is the one they chose to build a new platform/foundation but without all the regulation and partnerships hassle of making it for traditional payment systems.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Imo after reading it, it doesn't seem that crazy or off-brand anymore (so long as it gets fleshed out to use something not as transactionally-inefficient as bitcoin).