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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I mean, in the KJV at least there's adam and eve, then cain and abel. then just cain, and then the book just says "Cain went to the land of Nod, east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife." So there were definitely other people around and canonically we're not inbred, it's just that we all have a common inheritance from Cain, and therefore Eve, and therefore we all inherited original sin.

It makes a lot more sense when you remember that YHWH was originally a bronze age thunder and warrior god who was not the one and only god like it says in christian canon. He was a god amongst many gods, and only ever asserted himself as the one and only god of the tribes of Judea (who were, at the time, polytheistic). It's the difference between your girlfriend saying you're not allowed to date anyone else and your girlfriend saying she's literally the only girl that has ever existed and will ever exist. It's not until after the Jews lost their war with the Babylonians and Solomon's temple was destroyed that we start seeing YHWH spoken of as the creator and the only God. Early versions of the creation story even have YHWH using the first person plural when making declarations, implying that the audience was other gods which would have been easily accepted at the time in which the stories emerged but are absolute anathema to Christians and Jews today. From memory, after Adam and Eve eat the apple YHWH says something like "They have eaten of the tree of knowledge, and now know of good and evil. If they eat from the tree of life they will become like us."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Thing is, Lilith didn't pop up in texts apart from post-Jesus, such as talmudic texts. (although a Lilith was mentioned in Isaiah, it could have been a demon of some sort) so she'd only really be regarded by modern day Judaism, not by Christians.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

God the book of Genesis is so fucking dumb, I can't believe people base their entire worldview around it. Like there's people who adhere to all forms of ridiculous Christian morality, some less so, some more so, but ON TOP OF THAT also believing that fuckin Abraham wasn't in active psychosis and was a reliable source, or that Jesus is the actual son of God, what the fuck....

The dumbest part of religion is the answers. The absolute coolest part is "YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE ABSOLUTE, BOW DOWN IN IGNORANCE MORTAL" like hell yea i can get down with being a dumbass more than listening to someone who doesn't know he's a dumbass

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

or that Jesus is the actual son of God

I mean... He kind of claimed to be the Son of God, did miracles, and then proceeded to die and rise again from the death

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Did he, though?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

People claimed someone did those things, the zombie part was added somewhere around 300 years AFTER the claimed date of death.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

Can't have an ancient story without an evil woman you can blame everything on.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Because Lilith is not actually mentioned in the Christian bible despite this wiki page's attestation she is mentioned in Isaiah. She only appears in rabbitic literature.

Lilith is also the catalyst to a lot of vampire myths often described as the mother of all vampires.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I can't remember where I read this, but I remember reading that the inspiration for vampiric lore was rabies. Fear of water (vampires can't go over running water), fear of the sun, spread by biting...

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

And that's why we celebrate Easter with the Easter Bunny! /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Never seen the word before. Immediately knew exactly what it meant due to context; but… yeah, funny.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a shitty retcon from an series that jumped the shark

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago

Literally what the Talmud is after Jesus showed up who basically perfectly matched their messiah, but they rejected Him because he didn't come with an army to bring them greatness lmao

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Incest doesn't inherently cause genetic disorders, it just increases your chance of being born with recessive genetic disorders. Most of those disorders are mutations, and if the Garden of Eden is so perfect there probably aren't genetic disorders to start out with, meaning incest is fine from a genetic perspective. All the genetic disorders would be mutations later down the line. Maybe they're punishment for the original sin or something, to fit it into the themes of the story.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

That's a fantastic retroactive nonsensical explanation for Adam and Eve. Bravo.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Which might be relevant if those were real people. You might as well worry about the genetic makeup of Pokemon

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I love how some scholars say Lilith didn't exist... None of them did!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Are you saying pokemon are not real ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Not at all! . Pikachu assures me that he exists.

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