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Tanker carrying Russian oil to China attacked by Houthi sea drone (www.newsweek.com)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Newsweek has such shit journalism, man:

Yemen's Houthi rebels continued their attacks in the Red Sea by targeting two tankers in 24 hours, including a vessel carrying Russian oil likely heading to Asia, where China is the region's largest buyer.

That's the only justification given... Even though, y'know, India has been the largest buyer of seaborne Russian oil since the sanctions and is also, shockingly, in Asia. Meanwhile, it's summer and the Northern Sea Route is viable, cutting the transport distance almost in half.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Will be interesting how this will affect Russia's uninsured/self insured vessels going forward. As they've been cut off from all maritime insurers with the sanctions, they will have to cover this one themselves. It will hurt.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

uncrewed surface vessel

Wait, are drone oil tankers a thing now?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Not that I'm aware of. The uncrewed surface vessel in this case was one of the attacking vessels.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

The Houthis launched an uncrewed surface vessel attacking MT Chios Lion, a Liberian-flagged, Marshall Islands-owned, Greek-operated crude oil tanker, according to a statement put out by the United States Military's Central Command on Tuesday.

No, the attack vessel was the drone

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

What an unfortunate thing to happen on free dozen eggs night.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The people here praising the Houthis seem to think they knew who they were attacking rather than just seeing a ship pass by and attacking it, which is what they actually do.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And in general I didn't expect to see praise for a group that has "A Curse Upon the Jews" as part of their official slogan.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There are certain people on Lemmy who support the Houthis because they claim what they are doing supports Gaza. It does not. They aren't stopping Israel from doing anything by doing this... but there are people here who have this ridiculous "enemy of my enemy is my friend regardless of what they actually accomplish or what their real goals are" attitude which baffles me. The Houthis are awful. They have killed a huge number of people, including children, just like Israel. But hey, they're declared enemies of Israel, so we can just overlook that little issue.

I've seen people even praise theocracies like Iran for the same reason.

It's ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

“enemy of my enemy is my friend regardless of what they actually accomplish or what their real goals are” attitude

See also: "America bad, therefore Russia good"

[+] [email protected] -16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Part of the comment you responded to:

but there are people here who have this ridiculous “enemy of my enemy is my friend regardless of what they actually accomplish or what their real goals are”

Thank you for proving my point.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You agreed that it didn't help Gazans. Which was my point. They claim they are helping Gazans. They are not.

And, again, they do the exact same things Israel is doing- Killing thousands of people including children. You are ignoring that, which I also said that people like yourself do.

One mass murdering group is good to you because you don't like a different mass murdering group and neither do they. That's some bullshit reasoning if the reason you don't like the latter group is because of all the murder.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I see. Murdering children is opposing global empire when the Houthis do it, so it's acceptable.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Why doesn't anyone help the Palestinians? No not that way! They have to be absolutely perfect while we supply weapons for the Genocide!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So the options to you are "absolutely perfect" or "child murderers just like Israel" and you are going with the latter.

Guess it isn't the deaths of innocent people you care about.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They are attacking shipping boats of the worlds wealthiest elites and you are comparing them to israel intentionally massacring 15.00 children. Which is the reason they are attacking the ships.

This is absolute insanity.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, so you don't know anything about the Houthis and think all they've ever done is attack shipping boats.

They literally use child soldiers. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/16/houthis-continue-to-recruit-child-soldiers-despite-yemen-truce

Those are the righteous people you're supporting. They send children to die in their war.

Either you didn't know about that or it's not actually the death of innocent people you care about when it comes to Israel invading and bombing Gaza. I hope it's the former and you're not just bloodthirsty.

Nearly 2,000 Houthi-recruited children were killed on the battlefield between January 2020 and May 2021, according to UN experts.

That's who you're claiming it's insanity to call monsters.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Your outdated stats from 2020 are little relevant to their actions in the Red Sea. They are not sending children on suicide boats but autonomous boat drones.

The Houthis actions in this conflict pertaining Gaza are absolutely stellar and have massively impacted the way israel and the rest of the Western world is world willing to continue this Genocide. Because in the end our government only cares about money.

I can also bring up us murdering tens of millions of children in the last decades every single time someone brings up anything where we're actually doing the correct thing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay, you are now defending a group that uses child soldiers after being informed that they use child soldiers because that was four whole years ago and also some whataboutism. That sort of defense does not belong in this community. It may even be a TOS violation, but I will let others decide on that front. Either way, you will have to find somewhere else to defend a group that uses child soldiers.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So if it's bad enough to ban them over why are the comments still up?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because people need to know what happens when they promote a group that uses child soldiers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sticking a post saying that would be better. Especially if you think it's a tos violation keeping it up would be negligence as a mod

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When you become a mod here, you can do it your way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I would actually understand what I'm enforcing tos if using it as a way to remove users I don't like.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't particularly like you right now. I'm not planning on removing you unless you also decide to praise and defend a group that has murdered thousands of children.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

praise and defend a group that has murdered thousands of children.

Like Israel, or the United States, or Russia, or UK, or Canada. We live in a world where every country has done that.

Also ironically not why you banned them but whatever. World continues to move to be reddit 2.0

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And why is it that I banned them exactly? Let’s see some evidence to back up your claim that it was not for the reason I stated.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Really reads like you just got tried of them, didn't like dealing with their reports or actually thought they broke tos enough that was worthy of banning them but leaving up what broke tos.

Either way not anything about countries killing kids

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I see, so you have no evidence for your claim whatsoever and have just decided I'm taking some sort of revenge against them.

Weird, then, that I posted a warning in another thread about the Houthis that anyone else would be treated accordingly.

Again, I don't like dealing with you, because you're being extremely rude, but I'm not banning you because you aren't doing anything that would necessitate a ban. You're just being needlessly combative about someone else's issue.

However: If you truly believe that I have abused my power as a moderator, there are instructions on the front page of lemmy.world on how to contact the administrators. You know what to do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Ah yes the it was posted under the basement makes it look better

Sounds good. And definitely not being rude but thinking that really shows the situation.

[+] [email protected] -13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

This is just so blatantly false. Either the media manipulates the real owners or just cites the flag it sails under.

This ship had a Greek crew. Greece is the host of the European israel protection operation in the Red Sea. Meaning Greece has willingly involved themselves in the Genocide to defend israel so they have been barred from access.

And take last months US military confirms Houthi missile strikes on two ships in Gulf of Aden

Two missiles fired by the Houthis struck the Norderney, a German-owned cargo ship operating under Antigua and Barbados flags

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Yet another batshit insane Linkerbaan take. Go outside.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To the people downvoting the above comment: Houthis declaring US and UK ships open to attack as retaliation to the drone strikes in Yemen, then also extending this to the ships operated by the latest coalition against blocking the Red Sea sea traffic against Israeli profits is a would have been a no-brainer when you consider attacks on allies of belligerent countries are viable when it comes to Russian-Ukrainian war or any non-western supported war.

Houthis have been waging these attacks against with the aim of pressuring the allies of Israel, the decades long genocide committing apartheid, rogue and terrorist state, away from supporting its latest and most intense war crimes. They have been accomplishing this pretty well, and this is just an economic pressure akin to embargoes the western hemisphere applies to whoever they don't like at that moment. There will be literal and figurative friendly fires, attacks on bystanders, and unintended consequences to some extent, of course, but as per the wikipedia compilation, mostly the countries, companies and ships that keep trading with Israel despite their extensive war crimes are affected from the Houthi attacks, while the rest are pretty much operating unhindered.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Britain and the U.S. are still trading with Israel and now they hit a Russian ship. How does this help Gaza at all?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

British and US ships being harbored by the Greek host of the operation is a direct counter action to the Houthi efforts to pressure Israel to permanent ceasefire via pressuring its allies with economic repercussions.

As for the sole ship pointed in this article, it is not a Russian ship per the article. It is a Marshall Islands owned ship, under Liberian flag, operating by and for the profit of a Greek company, carrying Russian oil to China.

The only negative effect this has for the Houthi/Iran side is that their allies' commerce has also been disrupted. It is not even a negative effect if you count the pressure this applies on their allies Russia and China to separate their commerce from Greek companies.

Politics is nuanced, this pressure can also backfire, but I seriously doubt either Russia or China would lessen ties over a changeable middleman. On the other hand, Greek companies will feel more pressure from the loss of cut from the Asian trade pie more, and will pressure their government to lessen their involvement in backing Israel in this matter.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Houthis attacking all three imperial superpowers at once holy based.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Big oof

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