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I only pirate music and books anymore. I do consume it all. Well, most of it. Sometimes I'll download a series of books and not jive with the first one or something. The music always gets listened to. More than once, too! I'm easy to please. Or I have good taste.
How do I avoid Hoarding? Well I have a total of 2.75tb of space, so when it gets a bit full I go through and delete shit we watched already so I have space for more stuff
I have two servers, a >100TB rack-mounted Supermicro archive that doesn't get fired up often, and an Intel NUC that runs 24/7 but only draws 5W at idle. The NUC with its mere 4TB SSD is only for content I'm actively watching which gets deleted immediately afterwards. Running just the Supermicro made more sense when I had a terrible internet connection and had to wait for everything but I moved to an area with 1Gb+ connectivity a few years ago and subsequently needed to save on energy costs.
I feel like the real question you want to ask yourself is, "how likely is it that this particular content will still be available on Usenet/torrents in a few years?" Some stuff is much more niche and rare while other movies/shows each have over a dozen redundant releases, at least a few of which will more or less always be available somewhere. To put things in perspective, it also helps to do an analysis of how much you're spending each month in order to avoid what you would be paying in streaming and licensing costs, including hardware, power, and connectivity. If that ratio gets too high then it's time to scale back.
How do you avoid "hoarding"?
I dont. Hard drives are increasingly cheap/large. I have to really dislike something to delete it. I have a fair amount of content that I don't really plan on watching again, but someone I know might like it so i just leave it typically.
These are my thoughts exactly; piracy is preservation.
I have to really dislike something to delete it.
The velma tv show was the last item I just deleted.
But for me this is the same story. I'm up to 400TB... I'm just over half full. I've got plenty to go, and if I make to to 75-80% full, then I'm going to get me a 45 or 60 bay server and upgrade from my 36 bay one. 6 of the bays are wasted on SSD caching currently... Just finding a chassis that doesn't waste the 3.5 inch bays on 2.5 drives would allow me to add a full vdev(another 100TB...).
Old chassis can be had on ebay relatively cheaply.
Do you have an offsite backup? Or do you only backup specifics? Like 10-20% of that?
I do not have full proper offsites... yet.
I run proxmox, so if it's live on a server it's probably on my ~70TB (really 40*2TB ssd) ceph cluster. Which makes 3 copies across the 5 boxes, so it's more like 23TB of usable space for all my vms and such. The 400TB of storage is Truenas is really closer to 300TB after all the losses in raidz vdev and hot spares and what have you, there's 30x 16TB SAS seagates in the box, of which 2 are hot spares and 7 are parity for raidz1... For things that are slow or linear loads (a movie file could be a good example of that type of workload!). Backups of the the proxmox boxes... and mass stored stuff, 99% of it I could easily obtain again if I had to. Although I'd probably be pretty flustered about it.
Truly important stuff gets written to 100GB bluray(s) (specifically m-disc blurays) and put in the safe. I do this probably about once a year or so...
My dad was in the process of setting up his own cluster that's running 14TB drives rather than my 16TB... When he's finally done I intend to requisition probably about half of his space for offsite storage (maybe more). I'm figuring about 100TB of space is what I'll have there. Maybe more. He's about 65 miles away from me, different electrical grid and all.
So the count as it stands now. Everything running has at least 2 copies on 2 mediums (ceph cluster, and spinning rust). My "linux iso" repositories only live on the spinning rust storage, but is low priority anyway. Super important highly sensitive shit lives on at least 3 copies and 3 mediums, although one of the mediums may be out of date and none is offsite... Though it's rare I add to this category. There is plans for adding another copy of data, offsite on harddrive storage for most of my dataset as it is now.
Truenas usages:
And here's Ceph
I avoid hoarding by only grabbing things I know I'll use. With movies/shows, if I haven't used it in three months, it goes away. With music, I tend to go in cycles through genres where I'll be vibing to a given type of music for a month or two, then switch things up. So the cutoff is much longer, years in fact.
But books are a slower thing to begin with. I'm a notoriously fast reader, capable of consuming light fiction at a book and a half to two books a day. Something like the Sookie Stackhouse books by Charlaine Harris, as an example, I can zip through the entire series in under a week if nothing interferes. But even at that speed (which isn't consistent when there's heavier material), it would still take years to go through my digital library. Plus, the files are small enough that I don't have to worry about the space, so they only get deleted if I dislike something new.
The exception to all of that is some classics that I keep around just for the hell of it. Like, I have all the Hitchcock movies, but only watch any given one maybe once in five years. So I still have most of a terabyte of movies that's as permanent as possible barring redundant storage all failing at once.
Music is similar, especially since most of it is in flac format. There's some stuff I may not listen to often, but I want to keep immediately available.
Which, believe it or not, isn't hoarding. I go through things and weed out fairly regularly. It's just that after a collection is big enough, it takes longer to cycle through and use a given file again. Stuff that's used isn't hoarded.
All the few shows/movies on my hard drive I end up watching when I get around to it and feel like watching. Though, recently, there have been 3 specific cartoons I've been watching a lot more of due to not feeling like watching other shows.
So far, the only things I have got that were bad quality and unwatchable were 2 cartoons. One you could easily tell it was upscaled and just looked a bit off, making it feel uncomfortable for me to watch and enjoy. The other, first episode in and they cut the theme song and had the channel watermark, for a show that's a few decades, so I didn't bother checking the other episodes and just deleted it. With the first show, I looked immediately because there was a specific episode I needed to check, but the other, it took me over a half a year to finally check to see how good quality it is/was.
I archive, never delete or stop seeding. I would just delete when you need space if you don't want to buy drives.
I mostly only load TV shows and movies. At least those are by large the biggest part in terms of storage taken. Well.. I only load stuff that I actually want to watch. I also load some stuff for friends, but it has to be decent quality and be not totally niche (aka I'm eventually watching it, or other friends)
Thanks to MetalJesusRocks, I just grabbed a pack of 7,000 MS DOS game (ExoDos) at almost half a TB
help me
That's like 70 MB per game unless my napkin math is off by a few 0s. Sounds rather large for MS DOS games?
I suspect a number of the larger ones are CD games with multimedia (video) experience. I mean, the original Command and Conquer used 2 CDs
Right, I totally forgot about games on CD!
Correct many are covered by.....E. Ese (sound it out)
Definitely not investigating this when I get home
Nope. Definitely not. Wink
I try to only grab the stuff someone in the house wants to watch.
If my drives ever fill up, I’ll either expand or delete things I know we’ll never watch again.
I only pirate TV/movies, and since I never know what I’ll feel like watching it’s pretty easy to just hoard it. Takes a long time to fill up drives so adding a 16TB drive once a year or two is pretty manageable.
But tbh the main reason I hoard them and keep my Plex library full is simply to keep view stats. Prior to Plex I was constantly plagued by “have I seen this” or “what was that movie I liked 10 years ago?”. But not anymore!
Also, when the zombie apocalypse happens I’ll finally have time to rewatch Breaking Bad so I need an offline copy just in case.
Also, when the zombie apocalypse happens I’ll finally have time to rewatch Breaking Bad so I need an offline copy just in case.
Hope you already got solar panels or some other sort of electricity generator for that
What is your drive setup?
Just a Synology NAS with softwarr’s and a Shield TV connected via Ethernet, works great
Or when streaming services start at $70.00 a month with ads.
What I do is sort the directories and files by size and go largest to smallest. Based on the likely distribution of files sizes, 20% of your files and/or directories will account for 80% of the hard drive space. I usually then choose candidates for deletion and evaluate them, deleting them on the spot or skipping them for this time. I do this until I get the space reduction I want or until I'm sure that I want to keep what is in the largest 20%. After I reach one of the two states: top 20% of files/directories are keepers or I deleted down X GB. This method can be done with any sorting method. For example, by play count or by date added, old to new. Keep going until the top 20% are keepers. The same distribution is likely to apply across all vertical data labels so the filter is generically usable in lots of situations. For example, 20% of car drivers likely get 80% of speeding tickets. We could reduce speeding by 80% by speed limiting these drivers' cars or by revoking their drivers licenses. Another example is memory hogs in a computer system. The top 20% of memory hogging programs likely account for 80% of used memory in a system. This distribution is called the Pareto principle. The principle is an example of a power law.
Storage is cheap. There’s no reason to delete content.
Only reason I delete content is when I upgrade. Like replacing a low resolution version of show with a higher one. Still, I keep immutable "snapshots" of my entire media folder so even after deleting something, It'll stick around for at least 6 months in case I need to restore it.
Same deal, got a full 3-2-1 backup of all my data! Easy to recover if I make a mistake but even easier to replace with ~~higher quality~~ newer builds of Linux isos.
Do you need the space? If not who cares.
Personally I run a media service for friends and family. I'm about to bring another 100tb online because we are running low on storage. Am I holding or just running a rack of servers in my basement?
when a wildfire took down my internet last month I sure didn't regret hoarding. I had plenty of unseen entertainment at my disposal, watched a bunch of new shows. when it did come back I decided not only to keep hoarding anything interesting to me, but to invest in a new backup drive to keep the hoard safe lol.
There's no reason to avoid hoarding!
How do you avoid "hoarding"?
Looks at my 28TB storage array that's 3/4 full...
Drive space can be had for less than 10USD a TB, so I'd hardly call hoarding a problem. Unless youre hoarding hundreds of copies of Call of Duty
Where do you get such cheap storage? I've seen it closer to $20/TB usually
You're doing great man, please keep it up i'm not even joking. Maybe someday you'll be the one guy that still has that old gem everybody lost.
Time to buy new HDDs.
Avoid hoarding? Let's just say I bring a real "gotta catch em all" energy to the trackers.
A) Almost every day. I have a constant backlog/watchlist but it's small and fairly constant.
B) Once or twice a year I go over my media and delete movies or shows that I'm definitely not watching again. I am hoarding, though only the good stuff. Nothing wrong with that.