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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yes, we've had vertical cities with economic class strata, but have we had frigid vertical cities with economic class strata? This is an incredible innovation in the dystopian novel genre.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (13 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

also, to some extent, poul anderson's war of the wing-men.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

extremely funny that none of his interlocutors bother asking what his engineering background is like

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Don't worry Roko has the support of the best mind of our generation behind him: Roko: "Elon is absolutely right that Tunnels[sic] would solve traffic"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

careful with questions about formal education like this, you might offend Dear Leader

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

See what’s really fun here is that once again the libertarians are blissfully unaware of their natural predator: bears.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Look, I already knew Roko was a moron but this is outrageous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

by the way, when was the last time when rats got their lives or limbs in danger by testing their stupid ideas? instead of, you know, asking someone who knows beforehand? probably something weird happened to people testing these anti-cavity bacteria, but nothing really serious i guess. that was maybe half year ago or so

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Yes, good plan, the ozone layer hole craves more skin cancer sacrifices. (And don't forget that hole is prob going to grow due to mega genius musk putting aluminum sats in the sky that burn up in high altitude)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He does mention that you'll need a military to defend your borders, though of course he's more concerned about opportunistic "legacy governments" taking his iceborne super country away from him rather than pirates showing up to fish anything valuable out of the sea as it all predictably and rapidly falls apart.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this new 'military' setup will also quicly lead to them being seen as pirates by 'legacy governments' (who tend to love armed groups showing up, esp near any shipping lanes (if he wants to live anywhere away from the damaged ozone layer (the south of the south pacific seems somewhat empty at least). And the various groups of people in this new libertarian utopia (I'm going to assume it is libertarian) will surely not start preying on each other, or those nice 'legacy' shipping going round. At least 4 people will call themselves Ragnar Danneskjöld.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I meant more like treating the icelibertarians like the Houthis and tossing a few missiles into the iceskyscrapers than that kind of what I assume is USA military fanwank video.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is literally the dumbest shit I've read all week and it's been a pretty dumb week. I'm afraid I have to diagnose Roko with having the brain scamblies. There is no cure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

i like how he started on the premise that iceberg is cheap real estate, then okay let's cover underside with thermal insulation, and also reinforce top with freshwater ice, that freshwater will be have to be transported there and then frozen in place, and also let's cover top with expanded glass and concrete, and let's put wood pulp and basalt fiber rebar in ice, and

all while never counting beans, and any and all numbers are entirely pulled out of his ass

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

even on lesswrong the guy going through his numbers for how concrete behaves

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (16 children)

Roko even said the 'I think agricultural waste products like straw can be substituted for sawdust so maybe you are paid to take it off their hands.[emph mine]' line. which is always a good sign when somebody is trying to the economically feasible math.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ok, seriously, this is just Mortal Engines fan-fiction in an oceanpunk AU.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

No, see that would be way cooler than this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There is an entire second Earth right here on Earth.

"... Mister Bond."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

"I sunk your battleship thirty-five minutes ago."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Environmentalists are fond of saying that “There is no second Earth“. They are wrong! Here’s why: 

There is an entire second Earth right here on Earth.

Second Earth is a waterworld. It’s the vast Pacific Ocean that covers half the planet.

Well, he's a little fuzzy on the concepts of halves and wholes, but let's hear him out on colossal geoengineering projects.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the sequel to time cube, ice cube

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

ah yes so he's up to making ~~aircraft carrier~~ ~~floating libertarian treehouse~~ rube goldberg mad max platform out of pykrete

One idea for the bottom of the iceberg is to erect a grid of airtight barriers on the bottom of the berg, with cells a few dozen meters wide and a few meters tall and blow air bubbles into them

this makes this grid having to support several tons of buoyancy force, it will have to be airtight but also its connection to ice will have to be so, and ice will probably deform over time. did all of these motherfuckers dropped out of middle school?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

As Tom and Ray would say (rest in peace), it's too much course 8.

(Course 8 is the catalog number for the physics department at MIT.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

it will have to be airtight but also its connection to ice will have to be so

just flex tape it bro why you so negative

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

look, i think it's up to all of us to have the imagination and foresight to support roko in this fabulous and important endeavour. we could lure patri friedman onto the same ice flow, for example, by the simple expedient of putting up a yellow and black flag with "no steppy on snek"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

nah, he'll never get there

all he can possibly do is to beg for money from givewell or whatever it's called, then release a shitcoin to fund it, run a few prediction markets and hopefully at some point money cops will catch him

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

It would give the orcas an opportunity to do the funniest possible thing

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