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Canada's Climate Impact Profile According to Ecosia (lemmy.ca)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[+] [email protected] -11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Shitty website, completely ignores the effect of population and land mass.

If all countries were to follow Canada’s approach, warming could reach over 3°C and up to 4°C.

If all countries were following Canada's approach of having roughly 40M people spread across roughly 9.98M km² and emitted the same per capita that we do, we'd reduce global emissions by 77% (same population density of Canada emitting same per capita tons as Canadians).

It's pretty convenient that people like to ignore this though.

And instead, here is Canada importing people largely from lower emitting per-capits emitting countries so those people can emit more here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Careful. Your voting history is showing.

There's also a 50-50 chance your postal code starts with a T.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Scapegoating Alberta isn't going to slow the spread of fascism. You're just sticking your head in the sand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lol, good thing there was nothing of substance riding on that because you're wrong.

Also, can you point out what I've said that's wrong?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Canada is the second largest country. I say we make it THE largest country. Let's split Russia into many more country. Let's do it. Let's ets go.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

https://climateactiontracker.org/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

very frustrating to see even the USA beating us!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wow, how depressing, not a single country is green 💀

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And we're potentially already past the 1.5°C threshold.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Relevant username.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

We can fix this by passing proportional representation, voting out conservatives politicians, increasing the carbon tax to $300 per ton, ending the $18.6 billion oil industry and $2 billion animal agriculture receive in subsidies from the federal government, regulating industry further.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I would love to see PR implemented, but it's not a panacea. It might reduce the conservatives representation in parliament but the Liberals would still be a strong party under PR. The Liberals set most of the existing climate targets and policy, and they are insufficient because the Liberals are a neoliberal party. They are fundamentally opposed to short term economic loss as a political ideology. They won't invest in the sort of measures needed to mitigate climate change.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Anecdotally, most people I know are ABC voters who'd love to vote NDP if that didn't mean a CPC MP in their riding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I must be in the same bubble. ABC everywhere here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No offense, but that's because you live in a bubble. The majority of Canadians generally land on the neoliberal part of the political compass right now. That's not to say they can't be convinced to vote differently, but there's a reason why the red team and the blue team have been dominant for such a long time.

FWIW, I live in a bubble too. Lots of the people I interact with are orange liberals or red NDPers. However I would say even more are people who fundamentally agree with the NDP more than any other party, but have been brainwashed into thinking the Liberals represent their views better than any other party.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

novel idea: do not allow to list party affiliations, only election platform. Those would be some very interesting results

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

All money donated by companies should be pooled and split evenly

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The majority of Canadians generally land on the neoliberal part of the political compass right now.

Totally aware and I think you're right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The voters would have stronger influence in the elections as they would be able to hold the politicians more accountable as they could vote for the other choices in the future without trashing their own vote.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

True, but you have to remember that a decent percentage of voters disagree with everything you said in your above comment. Just because our democracy becomes healthier, doesn't mean our lawmakers wouldn't still make dumb policy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There is research that under proportional representation democracies perform better on climate action.

Source:

https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/october-2020/breaking-through-on-climate-action-and-electoral-reform/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't doubt that. All I said is that it's not a panacea. As I said, I would be very happy for PR to be a thing here. Once you make the government more proportional, you then need to actually make everyone give a shit about fixing problems. To get everyone pulling in the same direction on some of these issues is going to be an extremely uphill battle.

A significant chunk of Canadians think we are currently doing too much to mitigate climate change, that we should not endorse urbanist policies in our city planning or transportation infrastructure, and that we should reduce social programs that help people with addictions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree that education needs to be ramped up because the public lacks understanding in many key areas.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Yes, and as we've seen, when you make changes to education which are intended to push a specific political agenda, it always galvanizes opponents of that agenda to go out and vote. So we need to be very careful how that sort of thing is handled.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And build high speed electrified transit to reduce transportation emissions

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Best I can do is high frequency rail (HFR). 🥹

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

We need Via Rail to electrify as well.