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I would love to see PR implemented, but it's not a panacea. It might reduce the conservatives representation in parliament but the Liberals would still be a strong party under PR. The Liberals set most of the existing climate targets and policy, and they are insufficient because the Liberals are a neoliberal party. They are fundamentally opposed to short term economic loss as a political ideology. They won't invest in the sort of measures needed to mitigate climate change.
Anecdotally, most people I know are ABC voters who'd love to vote NDP if that didn't mean a CPC MP in their riding.
I must be in the same bubble. ABC everywhere here.
No offense, but that's because you live in a bubble. The majority of Canadians generally land on the neoliberal part of the political compass right now. That's not to say they can't be convinced to vote differently, but there's a reason why the red team and the blue team have been dominant for such a long time.
FWIW, I live in a bubble too. Lots of the people I interact with are orange liberals or red NDPers. However I would say even more are people who fundamentally agree with the NDP more than any other party, but have been brainwashed into thinking the Liberals represent their views better than any other party.
novel idea: do not allow to list party affiliations, only election platform. Those would be some very interesting results
All money donated by companies should be pooled and split evenly
Totally aware and I think you're right.
The voters would have stronger influence in the elections as they would be able to hold the politicians more accountable as they could vote for the other choices in the future without trashing their own vote.
True, but you have to remember that a decent percentage of voters disagree with everything you said in your above comment. Just because our democracy becomes healthier, doesn't mean our lawmakers wouldn't still make dumb policy.
There is research that under proportional representation democracies perform better on climate action.
Source:
https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/october-2020/breaking-through-on-climate-action-and-electoral-reform/
I don't doubt that. All I said is that it's not a panacea. As I said, I would be very happy for PR to be a thing here. Once you make the government more proportional, you then need to actually make everyone give a shit about fixing problems. To get everyone pulling in the same direction on some of these issues is going to be an extremely uphill battle.
A significant chunk of Canadians think we are currently doing too much to mitigate climate change, that we should not endorse urbanist policies in our city planning or transportation infrastructure, and that we should reduce social programs that help people with addictions.
I agree that education needs to be ramped up because the public lacks understanding in many key areas.
Yes, and as we've seen, when you make changes to education which are intended to push a specific political agenda, it always galvanizes opponents of that agenda to go out and vote. So we need to be very careful how that sort of thing is handled.