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Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

AI Maxers Thrilled with Trump’s Vice President Pick JD Vance

This isn't really too interesting yet; but something to keep an eye on. As things like blockchain and AI alignment becomes weirdly political it's likely that sneering will get unpleasantly close to politics at times. And yet sneer we must.

Other self-titled techno-optimists highlighted Vance’s ties to venture capital, Thiel, and Andreessen, saying the “Gray Tribe [is] in control.” Gray Tribe is a reference to a term originating from Scott Alexander’s Slate Star Codex blog, which points to a group that is neither red (Republican) or Blue (Democrat), but a libertarian, tech savvy alternative.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I really should write more about technofascism while I still have electricity, clean water, a relatively unfractured global information network, and there aren’t too many gunshots outside

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I have an extremely rough draft up on our writing community MoreWrite: here it is. it very much deserves to be restructured and expanded; I wrote this first draft in a hurry, and since then I’ve both gotten some very solid recommendations for prior work in the area to read and cite from @[email protected] and I’ve experienced more instances where technofascist methods were used to take control over open source projects away from their communities.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Dingus McGee, VP is also a big fan of Yarvin,

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

probably a mix of early Macedonian invasions.

Like his mom?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

imagine one day buying some shitpost novelty stickers from that one site you heard a friend mention sometime, and then getting them and laughing about it and forgetting it

all too rapidly the years pass: young trees shoot up, older trees start boughing their way past electrical lines, the oldest all already in their position of maximum comfort. whole generations of memes have been born and died. you no longer even get to make fun of your weird aunt for still sending the dancing baby gif (these days it’s all about the autotune clips of a decade ago..)

and then one day you get reminded that the shitpost novelty sticker web store exists by receiving an email from them

what the fuck.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

yeah stickermule is where I got the bitcoin "it can't be that stupid" stickers

how annoying

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In his twitter thread he's attempting to troll people in the replies. And not even doing a particularly good job at it. A bold business strategy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Apparently they also once chained a design into 'liberal moron' from what was some political message once in the past, so it isn't coming from nowhere. Guess it wasn't an innocent mistake.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Does anyone here know what Justine Tunney’s deal is? I’d been following her redbean project for a time but came across an article that left me rather startled

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

yeah, straight up alt-right techfash and long has been

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

she is, regrettably, a fascist who reputedly still hides right-wing conspiracy shit in her projects

I unfortunately know that startled feeling well; I used to be a fan of the work she did with sectorlambda and similar projects

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

well that’s disappointing :( it sucks when terrible people do cool things

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Tragic: The worst person you know developed a sane alternative to Wordpress.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Possibly the worst misunderstanding of quantum mechanics I've ever seen. I have no idea how anyone managed to convince themselves that the laws of physics are somehow different for conscious observers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can an observer be a single photon, or does it have to be a conscious human being?

The former. I'm glad we can stop the article right there and go home.

What the fuck is this question even? What the fuck is "conscious"? Do you think in the double-slit experiment we closed a guy inside the box to watch?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Under this, let's charitably call it, "interpretation", the Schrödinger cat analogy makes no sense, surely THE CAT is bloody conscious about ITSELF BEING ALIVE??

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

there’s so much quantum woo in that article I want to sneer at, but I don’t know anywhere close to enough about quantum physics to do so without showing my entire ass

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

There are some interesting ideas in that general direction (wrapping Bell inequalities within different new types of thought experiment, etc.), but some of the people involved have done rather a lot of overselling, and now bringing in talk of "AI" just obscures the whole situation. Which was already obscure enough.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well a good thing to remember re quantum mechanics, Schrödinger Cat is intended as a thought experiment showing how dumb the view on QM was. So it is always a bit funny to see people extrapolate from that thought experiment without acknowledging the history and issues with it. (But I think that also depends on the various interpretations, and this means I'm showing a cheekily high amount of ass here myself).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Pretty much any mention of a thought experiment in the wild gets my hackles up. “Isn’t it cool that the cat is alive and dead at the same time?” Shut up! Shut up shut up shut up!!! Tho to be honest it might just be schrodinger’s cat that comes up. I wish they’d leave the poor cat alone, and stop trying to poison it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

To me, the most sneerable thing in that article is where they assume a mechanical brain will evolve from ChatGPT and then assume a sufficiently large quantum computer to run it on. And then start figuring out how to port the future mechanical brain to the quantum computer. All to be able to run an old thought experiment that at least I understood as highlighting the absurdity of focusing on the human brain part in the collapse of a wave function.

Once we build two trains that can run near the speed of light we will be able to test some of Einstein's thought experiments. Better get cracking on how we can get enough coal onboard to run the trains long enough to get the experiments done.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

maybe we should have a social/off topic thread too

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I saw people making fun of this on (the normally absurdly overly credulous) /r/singularity of all places. I guess even hopeful techno-rapture believers have limits to their suspension of disbelief.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Days since last dangerous humanity ending infohazard discovered by some guy on twitter: 0

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It told him he was very smart and correct so he had an hypnogasm yes.

(For the people not in the know and who want some more psychic damage, look up Scott and his 'I can hypnotise you into having orgasms' blog posts, the man is utterly nuts, and it is really scary how many people seriously follow him).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Looks like he confused "tantrum" with "tantric"

No shame, happens to guys all the time

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If this wasn't Scott Adams I'd have assumed this was fetish content. Now I don't know what to think.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fetish content for the world's most divorced man.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Is he more divorced than Elon these days? I didn't think that would be possible

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

how the fuck would you explain that to humans who don't have years of psychic damage

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

On the plus side, this single image does catch one up pretty quickly

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

explaining these things to normal humans is how you turn them into humans with years of psychic damage, and I support that mission wholeheartedly

an attempt at a summary:

the dilbert guy, who believes he can hypnotize women into having sex with him, now also believes he knows a magic incantation to teach hypnosis to a chatbot, and heavily implies the chatbot was able to hypnotize him in turn (presumably into having sex with it)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

who believes he can hypnotize women into having sex with him

Wait I missed this, he believes what?

Now this is doubly funny.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Content warning for this post, you will get psychic damage.

It is worse, he believes he can hypnotize people over the internet into having orgasms. Here is a link to a screenshot, not sure if I'm able to find a archive link. I think he deleted his blog.

E: a tumblr has archive links but it seems he managed to delete the first post.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hey, haven't seen a proof of god's non-existence today yet, thanks!

extreme psychic damage trap

Submissives, I want you to start planning your New Year’s Eve now. Make sure you have some time alone, or some time with a partner who fully accepts your wonderful nature. But most of all, I want you wet, or hard, and especially obedient, starting now. And I want you to know how much I enjoy putting you in this state of mind. It starts now, but will get more intense by Thursday night. Expect to be a quivering, throbbing, wet mess by then.

How did that make you feel?

Queasy.

This is quite literally "creep discovers dirty-talking, thinks it's a superpower even though he's terrible at it".

EDIT: From Part 3:

So today I am only talking to the perhaps 20% of you who were turned off by this series.

Bwahahahaha! That's some funny shit mate, I've seen many bollocks number straight from between them buttocks, but this is fuckin' choice.

If you see a train entering a tunnel, think of it as nothing but transportation.

Hey mate, I think... I think that's what most normal people do? I sometimes imagine an action hero standing on top and fighting a villain before the tunnel slams them in the heads but that's just me. What do you think about, Scott? Don't answer that. please

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