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[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I suspect wolfire is a useful idiot with a larger company funding this lawsuit. Whether or not the antitrust case has legs, this will cost valve money which is a win for whoever they may be.

Just conjectue o course. I know though that if steam were destroyed tomorrow only terrible more expensive garbage would come in its place.

So go go gaben

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

I am very ashamed that I own a single wolfire title.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 3 months ago

I think that is one reason why Valve has remained dominant in this space for over 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Don't need that many employees to run a store, programmers/IT and marketing and you're good to go. Employees wouldn't count contractors either so they probably have a lot more "employees" than that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Could use a few to develop a new linux distribution for entirely new markets and use cases, design and manufacture innovative cutting edge consumer hardware, and count to three.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm surprised they didn't really try to make Steam OS a real distro for regular PCs, but at the same time there's no real money to be made...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They tried that first, it didn't go so well.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Honestly it would probably be worth it as a flagship project to keep their staff engineers excited about something.

I know they earn piles and piles of money, but some people just quit when they've got enough cash, so you need an other sort of carrot.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Not only that, Valve has done a TON of work to outsource as much of the process of running Steam off to the users and developers. Self-publishing, a minimum of manual moderation, automated greenlight processes, automated ratings, database tags, controller configs...

Their entire business model is to make money with as little effort as possible. I've been saying for ages that people vastly underestimate how ruthlessly profitable their business is. We didn't have the numbers, but we roughly knew this is what was going on.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 months ago (20 children)

Gabe owns six yachts, people should always keep that in mind when praising him, he's not the friend of the average Joe, he just realized there's profit to be made by not pissing people off, but he's still making enough profit from us to be a billionaire while the majority of people live paycheck to paycheck.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

people should always keep that in mind when praising him

Why?? Good for him, stop being so envious. It's thanks to Valve I started to buy games instead of pirate them anyway. Good prices and good practices.

A billionaire from a game industry is not the same as a billionaire from a real state company or a bank. Games are not a basic need.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Billionaires shouldn't exist. The government should regulate all these stores and force a max of 5%. They are clearly colluding and aren't competing in good faith.

This is having a negative impact on the industry, a lot of indie studios would have an easier time surviving if they weren't bled dry by what essentially is a soft monopoly.

Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony and Steam are all guilty yet you would never defend any of the other ones. Steam spends a lot of money convincing everyone Gaben is just a really cool dude and not your average billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Steam spends a lot of money convincing everyone Gaben is just a really cool dude and not your average billionaire.

Or maybe he is a really cool dude...

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Gaben owns 6 yatchs and spends between 70 million and 100 million a year maintaining them. He's in the same club as Bezos and the rest.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Stop it with the fucking yatchs already, seriously. Just look at the differences between Vale and the other companys you mention. If you can't see any, you are just a troll.

You can't say anything bad about Valve other than "they make a lot of money". It gets boring.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

Nah, a billionaire is a billionaire. There's still people being exploited to get that much money. I don't completely disagree, though - at least Gaben didn't make Valve completely evil and yeah, it's better than fucking up the property market for generations of people.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 months ago

he just realized there's profit to be made by not pissing people off

It's weird that I'm nostalgic for the good old days when the ultra rich understood that

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Holy shit Gabe Newell is a billionaire (it's just at the second paragraph). This does change my view of him and steam. So uncool.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What did you expect? He owns Valve who has the place to buy video games on PC with Steam.
But you'll be hard pressed to find a store front that is not owned by a billionaire or some publicly traded corporation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I expected him to be cool, I guess

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

cough GoG cough

I'm agreeing with you, btw.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The dude's the CEO of the most successful online gaming platform ever. Yeah, he's gonna be a billionaire.

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[–] [email protected] 194 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Valve is an online store first and foremost. Apples and oranges. The rest are playing catchup, as they've seen gabe get rich and fat, and they want in on that.

[–] [email protected] 168 points 3 months ago (3 children)

they've seen gabe get rich and fat

Hey, that's not true! Gabe's lost a lot of weight in recent times.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah let's keep this civil

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