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MEGA THREAD - Trump shot but safe, 2 others killed at PA rally (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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WHAT

Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

gunman is dead
Trump "is fine"
one attendee is dead
another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

CNN - Trump rushed off stage after shooting at Pennsylvania rally
AP News - Live updates: Shooting at Trump rally is being investigated as assassination attempt, AP sources say
The Hill - George W. Bush condemns ‘cowardly attack’ at Trump rally
Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) on Xitter - video interview with witness who tried to warn police before shooting happened
Sky News - Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage (Article confirms one rally attendee dead)
Reuters - Biden says he is grateful to hear Trump is safe, has been briefed on shooting
OAlexanderDK on Xitter - The shooter was on a roof approximately 125m or 400ft from where Trump was standing.
JakeMRosen on Xitter - An emergency room doctor I spoke with tried to save someone’s life in the crowd

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[–] [email protected] 244 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (198 children)

Do not advocate or celebrate violence, please. Comments advocating violence will be deleted and bans will be issued.

Also, please avoid promoting conspiracies. Discussing current events is fine but suggesting things like “it’s a false flag” without evidence is spreading a conspiracy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How do the people get justice for a convicted criminal that's above the law? Is there a reason why the constitution has an amendment for guns? Why are so many platforms against the constitution and against the need for correct course when apt?

Stop acting like corpo reddit admins and mods.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"Convicted criminal" who is "above the law?"

Seems like he was convicted, thus not above the law.

You keep him from being president by getting enough people to vote against him, or you accept the will of the people.

The 2nd Amendment was originally to make sure militias weren't disarmed, in a time when militias were more relevant. Has nothing to do with political assassination.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you think a convicted criminal should be walking around free?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

While they await sentencing? If a judge allows it, obviously yes. People have lives and jobs, if they might not even get prison time it would be cruel to force them into all the downsides of prison time (lose your job, child care difficulties) and then let them go.

Trump would be more impacted by his inability to campaign, but we only have one justice system and I don't want to betray my beliefs on how the justice system works just because I don't like this guy's politics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Most sit in jail until sentencing, and the time spent waiting will be accounted with the sentencing. I say most, because only the king walks around free.

Also convicted criminals people should not run for president. The corrupted courts made a new law, something they don't have the power to do, where the criminals can run, explicitly the hitler felon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Also convicted criminals people should not run for president. The corrupted courts made a new law, something they don’t have the power to do, where the criminals can run, explicitly the hitler felon.

No, they didn't. There's just nothing that requires a candidate for president not be a convicted felon, other than the willingness of people to vote for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How about when said political candidate openly calls for violence and murder against his opponents, to the point of asking the Supreme Court if he could assassinate people.

Maybe the 2nd amendment comes in to play a little? Last I checked we didn’t vote king George off our shores.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

But we did vote Trump out of office, and he left. That's the difference between Republics and Monarchies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He left after his last stand Jan 6. There is lots of news coverage of that, with many arrested as well. There are plenty of vids of Trump talking about Jan 6 people, not condemning them.

Also answer one question: What was Trump asking Pence to do on Jan 6?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Trump was asking Pence to return legally cast electoral votes to the states for reconsideration on false pretenses. Yes obviously bad and we don't want a president who would do such a thing. But not assassination worthy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We also voted Gore IN office but whatever.

Orange Julius has become a cult god and is literally talking about assassinating rivals

…that’s the difference between republics and monarchies

Also this has been an oligarchy the whole time anyone who thinks republic is either willfully or unintentionally ignorant

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

We did not vote Gore or Hillary into office. They got more popular votes and lost in electoral votes, and only electoral votes count for president. They lost fair and square, in the system we have.

No the difference between republics and monarchies is not "talking about assassinating rivals." You can say anything, that is anyone's right. In the context from above, this difference is why political assassination is not acceptable in a republic. It would be insane to say that political assassination is OK if the person had ever talked about assassinating rivals. The penalty for distasteful speech is not death.

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