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In the Abacus poll, 46 per cent of respondents said they would support Canada becoming a member state of the EU, and 44 per cent said the Canadian government should definitely or probably look into joining it.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I appreciate the thought and the vote of confidence. Unity against the US would be nice. But, I'm afraid of the US influence in Canada. It's bad enough in the EU, but Canada probably is worse.

My conditions in order of importance, if I had any power at all, would be (and maybe Canada already has these):

  • no "winner takes all" or first past the post anywhere - single transferable vote or ranked choice voting
  • separation of church and state
  • wealth tax aka "tax wealth, not work", it'll pay for a bunch of the below
  • free public education
  • universal healthcare without stupid deductibles
  • the ability to live without a car in any place with more than 5k people i.e public transport FTW, high speed trains, buses, metros and trams, fuck cars
  • opensource in all public services
  • no deals with the US defence industry (although the EU council just made idiotic concessions)
  • house the homeless
  • state funded TV

Those are off the top of my head. Given more time, I'd probably come up with more, but I think those are the basic things I'd care about.

Edit: Yes, I'm aware most EU members don't have this, but Canada could be a lighthouse, guiding the rest of the members. It would probably see a huge influx of Europeans if those things were to be implemented.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree with your suggestions however ranked choice aka the alternative vote funnels everyoneโ€™s votes to the 2 big parties thus causing less political competition in our politics.

The winner-take-all ranked ballot system that was being pushed by Justin Trudeau can distort results even more than first past the post.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Versus FPTP, which funnels votes to 2 big parties, forces strategic voting and discards everyone else's opinions?

Ranked choice allows the politicians in a country to see what people actually want. There's been countless elections in my country where I'd have voted Green if I knew that vote would then be transferred to the party of my preference, rather than effectively being a vote for the party I like least (as a third party vote is in FPTP).

If the incoming government knows the only reason they got in was down to a load of transferred green votes, they would be pressured to push for a policy agenda more skewed in that direction and in theory should result in a government more representative of the people that voted for it

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Iโ€™m advocating for the single transferable vote not first-past-the-post. The results show that with the alternative vote the big parties are much more overrepresented in the makeup of the seats in parliament meaning that they will be less likely to listen to you. We need to have the seat makeup match up with the percentage of the votes.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I love these "nearly half" declarations of support the media likes to gin up.

So..."less than half", then?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (6 children)

If Canada joins EU that would make it the union less a European union, not saying I would mind that but we're gonna need a better name. Maybe invite Australia & New Zealand as well. Need to be quick though, before UK snatches them up.

Hear me out, wild plan: why not free the russians & add that as well.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not sure how that would work since they aren't on European continent, but then I remembered we have Australia in Eurovision so I'll allow it. Just because Canadians are cool.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The EU is already in the Caribbean and South America, might as well be in north too.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

As a EU/French I vehemently oppose that idea unless we get to see the Canadian mounted police to parade here on the Champs Elysรฉe, this next 14th July :p

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I mean if Cyprus and French Guiana can join so can Canada if we can meet the requirements. Itโ€™s a political alliance of values.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

French Guiana is only part of the EU because it's part of France, and even then it needs plenty of exceptions to make it work.

Cyprus was already aligned with the rest of Europe in economic laws.

Canada would need to redo half of its laws to join the EU, and Canadian companies would either need to produce two versions of everything or drop the US market altogether.

It's more realistic to aim for a close bilateral treaty than for membership, at least for next few decades.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean french guiana is literally a part of france. Its an overseas territory so its handled as an island or whatever not a colony. The most disgusting thing isnt that canada is in north america but that the eu would need to borded the usa...

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I mean poor Norway, Finland, Poland and The Baltics already have to deal with Russia.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How is Cyprus controversial as an EU member? Because it's far enough to technically be Asia? Still very much European values, language, history etc. It's also only a stone's throw away from the nearest Greek island

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  • Tax heaven (together with Ireland)
  • Part of the island occupied by Turkiye
[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And Malta, Luxembourg, Monaco, Andorra, Jersey... Etc. Basically any small nation

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Some people claim that โ€œa country cannot join if theyโ€™re outside the continentโ€

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But then we would share two borders with the USA :/

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The European Union could help safeguard those borders.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The European Union could help safeguard those borders.

Since we/The EU will be soon buying even more US weapons, I seriously doubt that.

What was once a region of the world populated with so many smart and bright people has now become the proud land of the dumb. The EU is like a headless chicken running around. And it seems rather happy about what it has become, I'm afraid to say so.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

That would be the first step in claiming back what once was ours ;)

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