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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Great, well bye bye Pixel 6a, about time anyways I guess. I knew it was only a matter of time before they did something to make these devices completely unbearable, "AI" bullshit has done it.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Just install GrapheneOS on your device and AI is pretty much gone

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sadly they might not be able to update GrapheneOS to new Android versions anymore :(

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Then LineageOS, /e/ or whatever.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That is a misleading claim right here, don't blindly trust everything you read online. The core team of the project explained it very well why it's not as dramatic as people made it seems too. It's not an ideal position and Google is definitely going in a direction that doesn't not benefit AOSP but no Android16 is comming to GrapheneOS and future version also should.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Could you please link this explanation?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I will definitely give it a shot, I've loaded an alternate OS on a phone before but it was more about customization then. Hopefully there will continue to be options like this for people who prefer to use their own brain and don't mind pressing buttons instead of giving voice commands. I don't want to talk to inanimate objects I talk to myself enough.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Well GrapheneOS is a a robust mobile OS built for security. It brings amazing privacy out-of-the-box and control features. You really own your phone! Not Google, not Big Techs and Government, YOU.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Pretty much gone or fully gone?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Well the chip is still capable of using some "AI cores" and you can install AI app on it but by default it's gone. I would assume that there is some algorithme in Android that have been setup using Machine Learning and that you could market as AI since everything that is automated or made by computer gets the label AI as it's the new buzzword of Silicon Valley and technology but I wouldn't call them AI myself.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

Just about to say the same, since he has a pixel phone...

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

That's why degoogle community have more users recently !

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

Just disable Gemini completely.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

If you don't want this stuff on your phone, lemme point you to:

GrapheneOS (Pixels only, has Most Security at Tinfoil Hat level while also providing compatibility for Google Play (optional, sandboxed) and SafetyNet)

CalyxOS (Pixels, Some Moto G 5G, Fairphone 5, 4, SHIFTphone 8, less Security than GrapheneOS but has Security)

LineageOS (Many older devices, runs unlocked boot so least Security but still can run sans google)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If we are on an old pixel (eg pixel 4) is it more or less secure to switch to graphene? Neither Google nor graphene are doing updates for that model anymore

I've thought of getting an 8 to put graphene on but the recent news from the project about Google making it harder on them has me pausing since I don't fully understand what is affected.

I don't want Gemeni anywhere near my messages and phone content.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You can put graphene on a 4. It won't be supported but will be more secure. Still not recommended by me or grapheneos. They say that the reason they support pixels is due to the security, not the aosp support, and that they will continue to develop grapheneos. Android 16 is the first new build with the changes and grapheneos is testing it now iirc. I would personally recommend seeing how 16 goes (possibly post after the update hits stable asking for user feedback) and decide based on that. You should probably get something new as the complete lack of security updates is quite bad but that could help you decide whether to go with graphene. Personally, I am on grapheneos and am not worried about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You should not be worried according to GrapheneOS's team.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Techbros don't understand or care about consent

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Interestingly, the same mentioned article from Android Police sells it as a "privacy win". I've tried to read it as a positive spin, and I seriously don't understand what these guys have been smoking.

https://www.androidpolice.com/upcoming-gemini-for-android-change-privacy-settings/

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago

I completely agree, I guess what they call "privacy win" is that this feature can now work without storing data on Google (highlighted by me):

Based on Google's email, it seems the company will allow Gemini to access messages, WhatsApp, and control device system settings without requiring that you enable the Gemini Apps Activity setting for your account. This setting saves your Gemini history to your Google account, potentially allowing for better personalization.

Previously, if you had this setting disabled for your Google account, you weren't able to use the Messages, Phone, Utilities, or WhatsApp extensions in Gemini (via 9to5Google). Once this change rolls out to your account, you will be able to access these features without having to save your Gemini history on Google's servers.

When they say

potentially allowing for better personalization

they sound like the companies trying to sell you these features without mentioning the privacy implications of said features. :/

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

In a glass half full perspective, it won't send all your data to Google's servers. The part they are not saying is that the data even remotely related to your query is going to be sent to Google anyway. They are claiming they will delete the data after 72 hours, which I believe they will for now, but knowing them, there's probably going to be a sneaky policy update in a couple of years.

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