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Lawyers for megachurch pastor blame 12-year-old for ‘initiating’ sexual contact (www.independent.co.uk)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Lawyers for Donald Trump’s former faith advisor Robert Morris accused a 12-year-old girl of initiating “inappropriate” sexual conduct with the ex-Dallas megachurch pastor, new documents have revealed.

Morris resigned in June after admitting to the incident. His accuser Cindy Clemishire previously claimed that the pastor had begun abusing her on Christmas Day in 1982.

Clemishire, now 52, said that Morris and his wife had been staying at her family home at the time when he asked her to come into his room, whereafter he told her to lay on his bed and then began touching her inappropriately.

She said the abuse had continued until 1987 when she told her parents.

However, 25 years after the incident, a lawyer for Morris – J Shelby Sharpe – claimed that it was the child who was actually to blame.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (3 children)

In case anyone is not sure, this behavior is completely normal in the Christian circles. The number of times I heard people, preachers, or whoever blame the victim for causing the man of god to stumble is far more than you would want to know, and was every time.

One thing to understand about many Christian groups is that they elevate their preachers to a very high standing and believe that they are "so close to the Lord" that they just don't do bad things. So, in order to preserve this cognitive dissonance, it's the child that tempted them to sin.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Reminds me of that story of a father that murdered his daughters rapist in a small town and the whole town was like "I DIDN'T SEE NUFFIN" and I believe the father did not end up going to prison for it. Is a BIG, fuck around find out situation for pieces of human garbage like this. Don't think these boomer pedos/other idiots realize what quantum computing and all of the data centers across the world storing citizens data for decades means for THEM... Just requires some inspired algorithms and a police force that is willing to uh, NOT protect the baddies and do their jobs as detectives vs arresting brown people for drugz :|

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"I put it to you, your honour, that that child is sexy."

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Yikes, it's a long ways down from that high horse.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even assuming this isn't a fucking lie,

It is still just as much of a crime to sex assault a child even if the child initiates the inappropriate contact. Stop them and get them some mental help.

Is that at all a controversial opinion? I guess among Trumpanzees there are plenty who condone sex assaulting children (or adults) as long as the perpetrator is part of the in-group.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

There's a reason molestation insurance for churches is such a big industry

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

There's no way...

Edit:

Here are a few examples of insurance companies that offer molestation insurance, specifically tailored for churches and religious organizations:

Church Mutual Insurance Company: This company provides a range of insurance products for religious organizations, including sexual misconduct liability insurance. They offer coverage for legal defense costs, settlements, and other expenses related to allegations of sexual abuse or molestation.
GuideOne Insurance: GuideOne specializes in insurance for churches and nonprofit organizations. They offer sexual misconduct liability coverage as part of their comprehensive church insurance packages, helping protect against claims of sexual abuse.
Brotherhood Mutual Insurance Company: Brotherhood Mutual offers insurance products designed for churches and ministries, including coverage for sexual misconduct liability. Their policies can help cover legal expenses, settlements, and other costs associated with sexual abuse allegations.
Philadelphia Insurance Companies: Philadelphia Insurance Companies provides specialized insurance solutions for religious organizations, including coverage for sexual misconduct and molestation. They offer policies that cover legal defense, settlements, and related costs.
ChurchWest Insurance Services: ChurchWest provides insurance solutions for churches and religious institutions, including sexual misconduct liability insurance. Their policies are designed to protect organizations from the financial and reputational damage that can result from such claims.

These companies offer tailored policies that address the unique risks faced by religious organizations, providing financial protection and support in the event of allegations of sexual misconduct. It's important for churches to work with an experienced insurance broker or agent to ensure they have the appropriate coverage in place.

What in the unholy fuck.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

The idea hadn't even crossed my mind that this was a real thing. I had to search it up because, my brain couldn't compute. Boom, 5 links talking about "SAMs".

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Can't buy alcohol. Can't buy cigarettes. Can't be employed in most jobs. Can't get a drivers license. But can initiate sex with an adult?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Little Girls need to stop being so SEXY!

-Republicans who think Drag Queens are bad for Kids!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

It's because they can't imagine not wanting to penetrate children that they assume everyone wants to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

But who also judge child beauty pageants.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Little girls parents need to stop making them up like that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I know that you're getting downvotes, but child beauty pageants are pretty gross.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Yep. The televised stories of the poor kids driven by their dragonlady mothers is really a sad thing to see

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago

Straight from the abusers handbook: DARVO: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Ex-fucking-excuse me? Not just victim blaming, but victim blaming a child? I fucking hate living on this planet. Just launch me into the sun already.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

When I see the most depraved defense from lawyers like this it just tells me that the person is so fucking guilty that I now suspect them guilty of even more than we know.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (5 children)

You know, I'm only five years younger than him, and yet never in my life since I was about 12 years old myself has a 12-year-old so much as flirted with me. This 52-year-old is somehow irresistible to the middle schoolers?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Providing just a small correction here. The child was 12 at the time, now 52.

Robert Morris (the accused sexual predator former pastor of the rapist, racist, sexist, traitor, “Christian”, beloved friend of Jeffrey Epstein, and convicted felon Donald Trump) was 22 at the time and now 62.

A 22 year old preying and praying on a 12 year old. Just so disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Whoops. Sorry. And yeah, no 12-year-old ever flirted with me when I was 22 either. And if they did, I would be smart enough not to reciprocate even if I was interested, which I wouldn't have been.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

No prob! I just had to internet search this pastor because I wanted to know just how old his gross ass was when he did that. I think most functioning persons in society would have the same mindset as you shared.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The child rapist has literally no defense, so his lawyer is trying the "she was asking for it" card.

The sad part is that this is not a ceiminal case, as there was a statue of limitations back when he was raping her. There no longer is, but that doesnt help her. All she can do is sue him civally. Still, "the 12 year old in pajamas was asking for it" is not gonna help here.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How about we just launch maga into the sun and then work on saving humanity and our planet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Easier to launch them out of the solar system

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