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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 months ago

Leopard-loving people say their leopard face-eating support is ruining their lives

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Did anyone read the article? Or am I not understanding the article correctly? Isnt the article saying their life is harder because they're being rejected by the LGBTQ community for supporting Trump? Or lol am I misunderstanding this comment section that seems to be mostly implying they're life is worse from the other MAGAs rejecting them?

Edit: I'm laughing at how bad I am reading the room not at anything the article or comments are saying.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

A hundred years on, and lessons are still not being learned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago

"I don't understand why other people at the synagogue treat me this way," says member of Jews for Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 months ago (9 children)

I was at the end of school during the 2016 election and my closest friend in my Comp-Sci class who I'd known from 11 was in the far right pipeline; this person found Hillary absolute abhorrent, loved trump and was generally the 2016 Pepe style crypto-facist. We live in the UK too, so this is even less common than it probably was in the USA.

When school ended, I stopped speaking to this person, but a few years ago saw that she's come out as a trans woman. I'm happy for her and not really keen to reconnect at all, but oh boy am I nosy about the timeline of her political views. I wonder if she still holds them, was struggling with internalised issues or just had a huge realisation at some point.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago

For me it's actually hard to respect someone's political views if they haven't tried the rest.

Which is why "cancel culture" itself is maybe not very important, but the very idea that someone has said something wrong 10 years ago and must apologize or be ostracized is dubious, because it automatically means that the person expressing it either never doubted their own views or is a hypocrite who lies about their own path to what they are, or even worse, a conformist coward. Conformists are always the worst kind of fascists and supporting mechanisms which reward conformism is the worst thing one can do.

Every worthy intelligent person I know has been all over the place in the past. Pointing out inconsistencies not by "party line" and popularity, but inside their own logic may have limited use, but that's assuming the person judging understands that logic, and humans are complex.

FFS, Exupery's Citadel jumps all over the place inside itself. And I don't think Eco's views can be characterized more precisely than "generally left". And Tolkien - there are sometimes kindergarten-level articles triumphantly accusing him of being this or that, but again you can't.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I'm in an identical situation as you (also from the UK funnily enough), except I did keep in contact with her, albeit at arm's length at first. She's explained to me over the years that it was internalised hatred, made worse by her family's very outspoken views about anyone not straight and white.

When she finally had a chance to get away and start thinking things through herself, she began to accept herself and others. She's a lovely person to be around now, and pretty vocal in trying to help other people learn about and understand trans healthcare and mental support. But most importantly, she's happy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

That was really wholesome to read!

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

Liberal tolerance is such a defacto default that people who would be hard done by a white christofascist America end up signing up for it because they assume it will include the same rights and freedoms they currently enjoy.

Also every trans Trumper believes they will be the token accepted trans person in the far-right. Same as some Jews cosied up to the Nazis to extract personal privilege at the expense of snitching on their own people only to end up at the exact same end-game anyways.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Wow. I would be nosy too. :-D

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"OWWW! MY OWN FOOT THAT I SHOT!!!"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

I never thought leopards would shoot MY foot!

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