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I just can’t find a decent email client that looks like it’s from the last 20 years. Geary and Evolution both appear to be pretty modern but something about using Gmail with a Yubikey just doesn’t work and neither of them will connect to my account. Both on Fedora and OpenSUSE. Thunderbird works but it’s so old fashioned and Betterbird doesn’t look much better. What’s everyone else using?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Thunderbird with the Proton Mail Bridge on desktop, Proton Mail client on mobile although I'd prefer to have all my mails on K9 since I have multiple mail accounts and haven't fully migrated from gmail.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Icedove (Thunderbird) works well enough for me. Maybe the reason it's "old fashioned" is because it works well enough that it doesn't need to be changed that often.

In the proprietary software world we're used to UI's being redesigned on a regular basis for no user benefit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thunderbird is very nice and lightweight compared with outlook. Picks up email settings more quicker and is much simpler to use than outlook. Recommended to all my clients.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If exchange servers and outlook.com weren't total dickheads about their very special and proprietary Auth methods I'd literally never use outlook as a client

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Thunderbird and K-9 (which will soon be Thunderbird mobile). I'm not a Thunderbird Stan or anything, but I was running into issues with Claws, Seamonkey, and Fairmail

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I flip flop between emacs and Thunderbird I use protonmail and both work great Integration with protonmail calendar and drive either is poor or non existant, but I don't use/care about those features anyway

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Thunderbird on my pc and the default ios app on my phone for my non proton mail email accounts I just use the proton mail website when I use my proton email

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Def proton mail. I was using spark for my other accounts and it was pretty good. Then i got a new phone and never downloaded it agIn and i use the stock ios app.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

i fear your best bet really is just using thunderbird or a fork of it and messing with themes.

I did have the same reaction on my first instal of thunderbird but after customizing it a bit i’ve come to like it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Web browser and Proton mail app on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Don't know if this has been said but you are not supposed to use the yubikey on your mail client. Google recommends you use an application password for email clients. As someone who has 5 yubikeys for different services I know this sounds unsafe but is the only way I've been able to use some of the mail programs with Google. The other option would be to enable another 2fa (maybe auth codes with Yubico Authenticator) and use that on the mail programs.

For Google I ended up using web client and fido2 (and another yubikey as backup and another as auth code generator) and my work requires Outlook but they also ask me to change passwords each month and input them on different platforms that don't support f2 and that breaks a few things for me so I opted for Yubico Auth and use my yubikey instead of Microsoft Authenticator or Google Authenticator.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Betterbird, a Thunderbird fork and I installed it from AUR repo but it has a flatpak version too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

aerc with mbsync and msmtp and neovim for composing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you use it for work or personal? I have aerc installed and working for my personal email, but I found it harder to sort through HTML emails as quickly as something like Gmail. I gave up on it after a couple days, but really liked the keyboard-centric workflow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I don’t work but I use a script using w3m to print HTML as text. You can find those in the aerc repo.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Using Evolution for nearly a decade now.

Cannot say anything about using it with a Yubikey.

Concerning Evolution: It never let me down, always worked and is comparatively lightweight.

Thunderbird was quite slow/heavy/memory hungry many years back. KMail ate my emails, failed at integration of GMail accounts etc etc etc. In the past I also liked Sylpheed, but AFAIK it doesn't have any OAUTH support etc. by now.

When nothing big changes, I guess only Thunderbird and Evolution are good investments, because they seem to be the only clients which are stable now and have enough users/active developers to not disappear randomly.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

I use Thunderbird and I don't think it looks old, specially after recent updates. You can also change the colors which is pretty cool.

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