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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I still don't understand what the uncanney valley is exactly. I've read the definition but not I don't experience it that way I guess? I don't know what people are talking about when they say something is uncanny valley.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (7 children)

There were tons of humanoid species around before we killed them all. Neanderthals, etc. Wonder why they're dead? Could be this.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

it could be a mammalian response, doesn't have to be just human

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

No, it doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

...or it's just that requiring co-operative society for our survival wired us to pick up on very subtle facial and figurative signals and signs when it comes to human behavior and anything "off" about it sticks out like a sore and creepy thumb.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Not every trait has an adaptive significance, FFS

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Maybe it's just a side effect from recognizing humans. The very fact that it's not supposed to happen is what freaks you out.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or the uncanny valley is just not a thing. There's a great video breaking it down, but I don't know where to find it rn. Basically, it's just an experimental artifact of flawed methodology.

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[–] [email protected] 326 points 4 months ago (12 children)

Diseased humans and their corpses. I can’t believe this meme still gets posted regularly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I just saw this meme, though it was funny. Showed it to my friend and he said almost exactly this.

It makes perfect sense now that I hear it.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

IIRC Sapiens, Neanderthals and Denisovans coexisted for some time, so it could be not about things that aren't human, but humans that are different. To this day, xenophobia and ethnocentrism are common attitudes.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

- things lizardman shapeshifters say

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Why can't you believe it

[–] [email protected] 149 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not just humans - I think it's not unusual to see a sick animal, notice that it's "moving wrong", and feel a revulsion that motivates staying away from it. It's a very handy instinct if, for example, that animal might have rabies...

Edit: I agree with you, I'm just expanding on what you said.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Could also have been cannibals, a lot of folklores talk about people who aren't really people that kill and eat people. Some versions of the tale of the wendigo feature whoever encounters them in their human forms noting that they knew they must be wendigo because they looked like normal people but something just felt wrong about how they behaved.

Uncanny valley could be at play in the ick you feel when you can tell for no apparent reason that someone's a psychopath or dangerous in some other way, the unconscious response to the things your brain noticed that you didn't.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

...they knew they must be wendigo because they looked like normal people but something just felt wrong about how they behaved.

Humans have a pretty good knack of recognizing things without understanding the cause. Wendigo sounds kind of like a cannibal who got a prion disease, with the unusual physical behaviors.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

This gets posted a lot, but nobody ever seems to post what the thing was.

The answer is probably "other hominids". Humans (Homo sapiens specifically) co-existed with them for a long time and competed with them over resources.

Edit: and the genetically deformed (with whom it would be beneficial to not breed, at least from an evolutionary standpoint) and corpses or people with disease

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The thing is psychopaths. They still prey on us to this day.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

See e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans

Corpses, illness, "bad genes" (asymmetry etc) seems like a more reasonable explaination in my ears, with interacting/breeding in mind.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Humans as a whole have never had any trouble killing other humans who looked just like them. I don't think such an instinct would have been necessary. And anyway the uncanny valley has more to do with revulsion than aggression.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah if you don't say that, it's way scarier because then it could be anything! Even... the...

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Also corpses, I see it debunked pretty much every time it’s posted

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

It could be a rock formation. Nobody says uncanny valley when its a sexy looking knot on a tree.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

To elaborate more, I think that it's because if humans have an aversion to other hominids and corpses, we wouldn't try to waste resources attempting to breed with them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Also corpses can lead to disease

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

We very much did bread with other hominids

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Well, perhaps not the ones that look uncanny then.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So you're saying zombies used to be real? 😱

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And the only reason they’re gone is because we stopped fucking them

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah they tend to make a face like that.

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