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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I think we're all just chasing our tails sometimes

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not a waste if I'm getting paid to do it full time

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

Using the word "we" loosely.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I certainly don't. If I can't fix it in 5 minutes, I just ignore the problem. And I wish everyone else would too and stop complaining about the smoke coming out of the machine. It's fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Doesn't surprise me at all lol, technology is always broken

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago

Jokes on you! My whole life is a waste of time

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I thought the title said “We are wasting up to 20% of our time on computers.”

My immediate thought was “That seems way too low…”

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (6 children)

This is 100% due to Microsoft, google and Apple. If you dont understand, I'm not defending my position, or explaining further.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Tangent: what’s this trend all about where people will make a statement and then firmly state that they will not answer questions or explain themselves afterwards?

I’m seeing it everywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Correct, but not how you meant it, fixing my Linux boxes is is my hobby now, so ita not a waste of time anymore.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Working server side much? Pretty sure a lot of us spend a lotta time on fixing shit unrelated to either of those 3… Not that it diminishes the merit of our IT support dude that endure due to those 3 indeed.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Linux users brings the numbers up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I can't tell if you are joking. But just in case, my installation worked flawlessly for years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that's fine, but as a Linux user I've fucked around a lot and spent a lot of time fixing mistakes that I did not need to make.

I think I'm a pretty average Linux user. Who needs something that "just works" when you can break it by trying to add something you don't need?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Once everything is set up properly it just works tbh. Meanwhile in windows updates broke something every other time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Really? Because I updated and my wine prefix just broke. That was yesterday.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is so not true unless you are using some super stable old Debian release and aren't doing complex work.

Most DEs are super buggy, especially the darling child kde, which right off the bat makes things not super stable.

Additionally some of the most loved distros are rolling release and inherently unstable.

Hell, I use multiple distros daily, fedora and slackware, I also use windows for work, windows is by and large more stable in my experience.

Slackware has kernel panics monthly, kde crashes on fedora, Wayland has too many problems to count, meaning I have to switch to x sessions all the time.

Most GUI software I use has tons of visual glitches.

Yes it's tolerable, that's why I still use it, but I wouldn't exactly say it 'just works'

I would estimate I restart my fedora computer about 4-5 times more often than than the windows computer, and usually I have to restart fedora because of serious hard crashes (e.g. kde crashes so hard that I can't even switch to a tty, meaning I need to hard reset)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've not had anything like that since... forever. But then I'm not a kde nor fedora user. Naturally raises the question - have you considered switching from kde, fedora or both?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If Linux "just worked" I would have switched years ago. I've used several distributions, always preferred Gnome to KDE, and even with "expert" help setting things up, I always spent way more time trying to make things work than actually having things work. Unless it's a basic-ass workstation being used for minimal computer things or to run a server for something, there's always something that doesn't want to work.

I like the idea of Linux more than I actually like using Linux. :/

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Hey, all of those problems are entirely because of my own incompetence.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I recognise the waste in waiting time, but I also think we are still increasing productivity more than enough to make up for it.

Personally I solve it by multitasking harder. Whenever there is a waiting time for a download or other stuff I simply start doing something else. I'm not going to waste my life watching loading bars for a living.

I don't think increasing user-friendlyness is a good solution. It's pretty much what caused the issues to begin with. Every time Windows or the apps make something more user-friendly it always results in more buttons to click and more updates to keep up.

I also spend an unreasonable amount of time just rearranging the windows in comparison to back when apps had keyboard-only GUIs with functions layered in different pages or tabs. I obviously don't think that is a good solution today either, but it goes to show that the bloated operating system has a lot of the blame.

Say you want to do something simple like renaming a file, you'll need to open an app to show the folders and files and also 100 different functions that are of no use for the specific task, position and scroll it where it's visible, navigate by mouse or keyboard and then do whatever you wanted. My point is that just operating the operation system is something that requires 10s of seconds over and over again every day. There's a long way from thought to execution for the simplest task.

The good thing is that it enables a lot of people to do so without any training at all, so maybe that makes up for it in total.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I think you might really enjoy using a tiling window manager on linux.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

We are wasting up to 20% of our time with bronze problems.
-- Some grumpy dude circa 3300 BC

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This. We used to waste time repairing the mechanical things when we could have been planting, or wasting time dealing with plant blights and livestock woes when we could have been hunting for wild game.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Must be the crappy copper from Ea-nāṣir

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago (4 children)

My job is to fix computers so I waste 100% of my time with computer problems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Keep fighting the good fight.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Just stop having computer problems

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