''Well if I tell you now it'll ruin the plan, you see it's gotta be a surprise''
He literally said this the last election.
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Probably pull the gear, pull the Intel, wait for Ukraine to look increasingly unstable, call for "reconciliation"
Rapist coward trump will weasel on this one.
Trump: Cut off aid, let Russia win. War is over.
I didnt forget about the time Trump tried blackmailing Ukraine into interfering in our elections.
He will release it in 2 weeks, along with that healthcare plan that's coming in 2 weeks
But he said that was going to be "infrastructure week"
He will do that just after releasing his tax returns.
Spoiler, it's just a big
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For once not a red flag!
it was cheap merch marked up by 1000% and the colour ran in the wash
But they announced already did they not.
- Ukraine and Russia start peace negotiations where Ukraine has to make concessions.
- If Ukraine refuses, no more aid
- If Russia refuses, more aid for ukraine
I don't believe them, but this was what camp Trump communicated. Or am I wrong.
From the start that is unacceptable. Russia should be making concessions, not Ukraine. Russia is the aggressor. Russia is in the wrong. All of the deaths and all of the destruction are the sole responsibility of Putin and his toadies.
If Ukraine refuses, provide aid to Russia
Fixed it for you
Two of his advisors said that and then his spokesman said only statements made by Trump himself or authorised members of his campaign should be considered official
That’s why it’s official policy that you should choose electrocution over shark attack if you are in an electric boat.
trumps plan
- swallow putins entire shaft
- invade ukraine on russias side
You forgot about the balls
Putin has no balls
Well then…. Carry on, carry on
Ummm, “official act” to remove you permanently and anyone else that stands in the way?
I could bet a good buck that the plan is to give in to Russia. It's what every Republican wants for whatever mysterious reason.
70% of Republican voters stand with Ukraine
It's not possible to vote for Trump and supporting Ukraine at the same time. These are polar opposites.
Nobody said they were smart.
Fun fact: you're being intentionally misleading
Nope there was a survey recently, that showed a clear majority among Republican voters support Ukraine.
Unfortunately that is not the case for Trump and the crazy MAGA crowd. And they are the ones running the show.
Some of them are probably also delusional enough to believe Trump will help Ukraine with the peace plan Trump claims to have. Despite every sane person knows Trump will just demand Ukraine to yield, because they are not getting any more help.
Of course the support for Ukraine is bigger among Democrat voters, but that doesn't change that there also is a clear majority among Republican voters.
100% of Republican voters support someone who insulted the parents of a killed soldier on a national stage and has secret buddy-buddy meetings with the person invading Ukraine. The fuck should we care what they think?
Not 100%
I'm not voting for Trump
Thank you. I'm glad you exist.
I'm not voting for senile either. NEITHER ARE FIT FOR OFFICE. it's sickening. 🤮
He also withheld aid to Ukraine in an attempt to get dirt on his opponent. Literally what part of his impeachment trial was about.
So they will vote for a party that supports Ukraine, right?
Yeah, I'll admit I've been hearing too much Alex Jones on Knowledge Fight. He seems to speak for the great majority of conservatwats so I assumed.
I'm not sure where you got the figure from but I looked it up and the polling seems messy. But I guess 3/4 of Republicans having an unfavorable view of Putin as reported by PBS is something that doesn't make me lose hope in humanity today. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/u-s-adults-split-along-party-lines-in-support-for-ukraine-military-aid-ap-norc-poll-finds
Editing to add these pretty graphs by Pew Research that show nothing surprising: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/05/08/views-of-ukraine-and-u-s-involvement-with-the-russia-ukraine-war/
Alex Jones
Entertainment for idiots.
Oh, definitely. That's the sole reason Knowledge FIght exists!
Hey, a policy wonk!
Red alert, red alert! I NEED MONEY
Do us policy wonks have a working community in the fediverse btw? Been stumbling about a few mentions lately
Now that's a good idea!
(X) DOUBT
Not enough to affect the way they vote apparently. Or punish their candidates in primaries. Or push for change through the party apparatus. Or or or.
hey now! they care about justice and world order and protecting people from bullies
just not as much as bullying queers and court orders against abortions and justice for… not being christian?
You had me going in the first part, I admit.
Zelenskyy cannot comprehend the genuis of Trump this man made an invisible wall round the whole of the US.