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SerenityOS and LadyBirds: Because These Things Shouldn't Hide in Closed Git Conversations - ░ Nova Online (cmdr-nova.online)

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Found this blog post and found it had more insight into the issues around the dev and the toxicity in FOSS

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

And then another, where a trans woman is called “spam.”

Pretty clear they meant the PR was spam, not the person.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, can't say I really care about this, this seems like a bit of a nothing burger.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It is. Both SerenityOS and Ladybird are courageous projects, easy target for this drama.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There have been many improvements in making documentation more inclusive across the IT industry which shouldn't be scoffed at. The first that comes to mind is changing "master" and "slave" to "primary" and "secondary" (or "replica" etc.) because references to slavery is inconsiderate to many.

I don't think pile-ons are productive, but I think inclusive language and thinking is important.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You must construct additional pile-ons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/you-must-construct-additional-pylons

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thats-the-joke

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I know. I just put it there for those readers not necessarily in the know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

And I specifically thank you for it. I didn't know there was a meta reference going on. Upvoted @[email protected] for excellent joke craft on account of it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Ah gotcha I thought you were correcting my spelling haha. My mistake!

[+] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How about when there are folks who have been harmed by people with agendas?

They'd prefer their code or commentary to be inclusive, not exclusive?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand the point you're trying to make

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine you have been purposefully targeted for harassment or excluded from activities in the past due to your preferred pronouns or perceived gender. Seeing "he" with that context would likely feel excluding, which is a reason someone without an 'agenda' would want to see it changed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

someone … would want to see it changed

So, by definition, “someone” has their own agenda.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

By definition, an agenda is "a program of things to be done or considered" which does not equate to wanting to do something. It more closely resembles a daily planner or task list.

So in as much as you and I have an "agenda" when we get out of bed, you are right, the person submitting the PR did likely have an agenda of waking up and going about their day. There isn't a 'woke agenda' at play here, however, as the person I replied to seemed to imply.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

It's worth understanding that "agenda" has a negative connotation. In this context, it's used as a dogwhistle against women and queer people.

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