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[–] [email protected] 211 points 3 months ago (23 children)

I feel like I'm going insane. How is this even happening right now? One of two presidential candidates is so old, that his own party is asking him to not run because he looked like an elderly person that got lost at the grocery store during a live presidential debate. The other is a deranged narcissist that was the previous president, clearly colluding with Russia, has be found guilty of 34 felonies, attempted to overthrow the previous election, and has explicitly stated he will be a dictator.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

TIME TO GET YOUR CLOWN SHOES AND HONKY NOSE READY WE'RE IN FOR THE GOOD TIMES

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago

Yeah he's leaving.

He'll be announcing Friday on Morning Joe.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago

another four years in the retirement home for the US either way

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 months ago (7 children)

That's exactly what I will expect him to say, right up until he leaves.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yup. You need to project complete confidence until the moment you drop out, once you say “This is a hugely important decision, the hardest one I’ve ever had to make, so I’m taking my time” Boom you have lost control and it’s over.

However it appears the writing is on the wall at this point. The next question is, once he decides to no longer run should he resign? If he isn’t up for the job of running how does he instill confidence that he can remain president? Plus it hands the nomination to Kamala no question.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (28 children)

It is extremely disappointing that he didn't take this opportunity to gracefully step back. People who watched the debate saw his performance and him trying to say "Nah bro, I got this" is really stupid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Friday. His interview with Morning Joe.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I hope? He could also just be using the opportunity to double down.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, that's on him, and so is his loss and all the consequences that come from it. All to try and satisfy his ego. Insanity.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

Good.
This is just the "I won't vote for Biden because Israel refuses to sign a ceasefire" bullshit all over again.
Notice how literally none of these people have any problem whatsoever with any of Trump's gaffes?
They have no problem whatsoever with Trump's policies. They have no problem whatsoever with project 2025. They have no problem at all that Donald Trump is 79 years old.
But they have a huge fucking problem with the fact that Joe Biden is two and a half years older than Donald Trump.
You would think if they actually gave a damn about the welfare of the country they would be concerned about Donald Trump in the least, yet crickets.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Most of the people I hear who are bothered by Biden's chances aren't talking about Trump's policies, age or lack of cognitive ability not because they support Trump, quite the opposite. They are scared of a second Trump presidency and are scared that the DNC will drop the ball again, fumble the election by sticking with a poorly liked candidate and they'll have to suffer the consequences of America veering headfirst towards fascism. There's no point to mentioning Trump's similar or more dire issues, because he was never an option to them to begin with.

I don't have faith that the DNC actually cares about the looming threat of fascism, the threat to civil liberties, etc, I think they saw how much in donations they got during the last Trump presidency and the surge in popularity even their most milquetoast center left candidates got and they think they can ride the wave for 4 years.

Bidens admin has done a lot of good and the DNC has been dogshit at demonstrating that with effective messaging. He's also done a lot of things I find abhorrent and in a just world, neither candidate should be eligible as they'd be locked away in The Hague. But that isn't the case, this is America, and I think the powers that be are willing to risk the election to save face.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No, it isn't. Biden is letting his fucking pride erode our chances of avoiding a dictatorship.

We'll see how future appearances are but he was incoherent at the debate and if that keeps up it makes another Trump presidency much more likely.

Also, fuck off for blindly assuming what everyone else thinks and assuming everyone who disagrees with you is arguing in bad faith.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's not good. Biden stands the worst chance against Trump, which is why concern trolls are so desperate to shut down and dismiss any discussion of replacing him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, this is scary, the media are basically all working for Trump, even those who claim the opposite. But they are falling for the Trump foghorn, just as much as any average Joe, where the media are supposed to be professionals and above that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Falling for NOTHING the trump campaign is going to give the media millions of dollars for advertising spots. The media have a vested interest in keeping the horse race going.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think it might be a bit of a bold assumption that everyone who thinks Biden is too old to do an effective job and should step aside is a huge Trump supporter.

There are plenty of people who hate Trump with a passion that thinks Biden isn't up to the task of winning this election.

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