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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Cops aren't supposed to be smart

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Killings by law enforcement in Canada

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Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Prior to fatally shooting Sarey, Nelson killed Isaiah Obet in 2017. Obet was acting erratically, and Nelson ordered his police dog to attack. He then shot Obet in the torso. Obet fell to the ground, and Nelson fired again, fatally shooting Obet in the head. Police said the officer’s life was in danger because Obet was high on drugs and had a knife. The city reached a settlement of $1.25 million with Obet’s family.

In 2011, Nelson fatally shot Brian Scaman, a Vietnam War veteran with mental issues and a history of felonies, after pulling Scaman’s vehicle over for a burned-out headlight. Scaman got out of his car with a knife and refused to drop it; Nelson shot him in the head. An inquest jury cleared Nelson of wrongdoing.

This guy murdered 3 people by shooting them in the head. What, do we have a 3 strikes rule for police murder now? 3 times and you're out?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I think at the moment it's if they're convicted the punishment is a violent death in prison since our prison system is at least as dog shit as any other part of the justice system.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I mean... It's better than the usual infinity strikes rule cops have.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hm.. seems like someone who is fascinated by Viking and Roman culture.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Show me someone with so called Viking tattoos and I'll show you a Neo-Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Viking culture isn't exclusive to a specific ethnic or racial group... Kind of weird that you'd associate Viking culture with Neo-Nazis exclusively.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So weird to associate a neo nazi with neo nazi tats

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bro there's an idiot who commented that blood wings is exclusively associated with Nazis lmao..

If you're anglo-saxon and don't even know Viking history, Viking culture, that's your problem.

What's next? Braided hair is exclusive to Black culture? LOL

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bro do you enjoy being terminally downvoted in every comment you make because you're always wrong?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Doesn't matter to me, it's going to catch the attention of many readers. And out of those readers, it will pique their (1, 10, 100 readers) interest and hopefully they take the time to unplug from the simulation you're enslaved to, do their research and realize they've been shaped and molded by degenerates of every kind under the sun.

Stay salty.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

You like my salty taste in your mouth don't you ;)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People try to say he's a outlier.

Nah he's just the one who got caught.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Imagine working with this dude and not reporting / exposing this immediately. It says a lot about those working along side him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Yeah, those are the other eight the tattoo is talking about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He's been on paid administrative leave since the shooting in 2019.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

where's my 5 year weekend...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The big red flag for me is the Mjölnir tat with the Orthala rune on his abdomen. Its one of the stranger ways of claiming they have some sort of pure Aryan herratage ethno-nationalists are often fans of using.

To put it another way, this guy is as neo-nazi as they come.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The Spread Eagle, the Nordic helmets, Nordic rune, and the Blood Eagle wings on the back...

The saying on the hands is common to the military, and references how they're going to make a call if something is 50/50. Without knowing if he served I can't judge that. But he's just a civilian then it's pretty screwed up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If the complete tat is along the lines of: "it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 8", it's been familiar to law enforcement circles (which circles the drain with ex-military, so not surprising) for a long time. When I was in college in a criminal justice program, several instructors repeated this over and over (except I believe it was "... carried by 6".

I didn't stay in that program, BTW.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

It is supposed to be carried by 6. But it's also supposed to reference a war zone. Not policing where upholding the law is the mission.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

For fuck's sake these dicks really think they're in some kind of war. That's a military saying, from a place where driving down the street was a roll of the dice and a firefight was a matter of when, not if, every day.

If that's what they think policing is then we really need to just fire them now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

His fat ass needs to be Carried by 8 ppl??? The phrase is carried by 6 This guy is an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Well, maths is hard. He's a cop, not an engineer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Motherfucker literally got huge angel wings tattooed on his back. That's some massive guilt compensation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Along with the other tattoos? Those are blood eagle wings. Common Nazi shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is this one person or two? The hands are clear in uniform but from the back picture you can clearly see a different set of tattoos on the back of the hands.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s a bit strange, the design goes down to his fingers along the outside of the back of the hand in the shirtless photos.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

You can see something on the side of his left hand like it was covered in makeup or a temporary tattoo coming off? Very strange.

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