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https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/06/30/canadians-react-to-cancelling-digital-services-tax/

Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Y'all are remembering that it's us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It's not going to affect any company's bottom line in the slightest.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yep, I'm slightly upset. Does he actually think something worthwhile is going to come out of the negotiations?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Carney
Always
Chickens
Out

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I can't believe Carney was a spineless liberal moron all along! Who knew?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why would the Conservatives bring this government down, when it's doing everything they want and taking the blame?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

the conservatives are a joke and they wouldn't bring the gov down as you suggest, but the Block and the NDP may and either would get my vote at this point... Carney could not have been more backstabby to the people that gave him the PM seat at this point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I always think of this song every time I hear 'elbows up'.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Always remember who we voted against. We would need special instruments to measure how quickly Polyestre would have caved.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah I know. PP is a Trump fluffer to the ultimate. He would have been an unmitigated catastrophe and it troubles me how close that fuckwhit came. And how he continues to try to remain. But unless Carney shows tangible results (which includes NOT capitulation to fash), his term as PM will be one and done.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago

Our choice was Nazi’s or standard conservatives disguised as liberals who are still just monarchists and kowtow to strongmen fantasies.

Either way we’re bound to regress.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (5 children)

This seems really premature. I dislike Carney's policies for a bunch of reasons, but it's premature to shit on him for this. We don't know what the final trade agreement will be.

The last time Trump threw one of these tantrums, NAFTA morphed into USMCA without much of a hit to our economy (afaiu). If our government can repeat that success while we're diversifying our economy away from the US then that's a win.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (5 children)

We don't know what the final trade agreement will be.

It doesn't matter since Trump can reneg on it at any moment as he did with the previous one

What Carney did here is signal trump that he will chicken out even faster than trump does at any tartrum he throws

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You just said why it's a stupid, stupid thing to do: Trump would have caved anyway. All Carney had to do is wait.

That he would cave so quickly shows how little he values Canadian interests over American profits.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

And to that I would just add - people are PISSED. People will literally self-deputize in a second if America rolls in with tanks or drones or whatever (they are already setting the stage for that with their relentless internal and external rhetoric about how “dangerous” Canada is with migrants and terrorists supposedly flooding in to their stupid country from the northern border). This is a very sketchy time. America can 🖕🖕🖕🇨🇦hates you

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Already sent an email to my MP, at least it’s something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

same and it was a nasty one

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I've sent so many emails since all this began. I get no response. Per usual. My MP is indigenous for fuck sakes.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would send an email to my MP but he is a do nothing back bencher who will take credit for Carney’s failures.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Mine's a cabinet minister 🤢

Like I'm emailing anyway but it's gonna be swiftly ignored.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe I will email mine then if you know nothing is going to happen? Brad Reddicop is a joke and a conservative.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Reddicop is the perfect name for a shitty Reddit mod.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Me too - people are pissed. We do not capitulate to fash. Poland and Austria did and Germany still invaded them.

I’m curious to hear Charlie Angus’s response to this capitulation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just a sidenote, Austria was as much victim as it was perpetrator under the nazi regime.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sure, after they were a perpetrator and supported them for literally the entire war, they fell victim. Just like Russia, etc.

You don't get to side with Nazi's/fascists even once, and then claim victim-hood.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I always thought he DST was stupid so to me this is nothing more than placating Trump.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

It’s dumb to implement IF we are in fact going in with Europe and the OECD on a digital sales tax. But it doesn’t seem imminent at the moment so I don’t have high hopes.

https://pro.bloombergtax.com/insights/international-tax/understanding-digital-services-taxes-the-oecd/#oecd-and-taxation

Otherwise it’s capitulating to fash.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The percentage seemed arbitrary and it being retroactive seemed excessive and unnecessary. We depend on US content so much you couldn't possibly function on the internet without it. It'll force the US to limit services so we'll be forced to use Chinese or European services and for what benefit? I use an adblocker and pirate most my stuff so no one is making money off me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

The percentage seemed arbitrary and it being retroactive seemed excessive and unnecessary.

What?! 3% We pay 8.79% on our income here. Three seems low.

I feel like no facebook in canada would be a net positive, especially after reading "Carless people". I don't even think that would happen, it's not like these companies can't afford it, they just don't want to set a precedent, and they spent all that money on trump!

I use an adblocker and pirate most my stuff so no one is making money off me.

You never use Amazon? I also use an adblocker and a pihole i think i see relatively fewer ads, i still see them.

The one negative i can think of coming out of this is the companies passing the tax on to us, i suspect that wouldn't happen.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Canada's implementation is different from other countries':

  • It's retroactive to 2022 - so the corps in question would have to drop a big payout in the first year.
  • It's slightly higher than the UK tax that the yanks didn't call out. (3% vs. 2%)

I don't know if I would call it stupid, but that retroactive thing seems odd. I don't know much about corporate tax law, so maybe that's a thing? I dunno.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't get the hate, it seems like about time these ultra rich companies paid some taxes?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think the companies are the only ones who hate the DST. That and their puppet politicians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

the parent of this thread thinks it's stupid, and got up voted but like zero explanation. Looking at their post history they don't seem like a bot

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

They were told about the implementation and the date active. They have chosen not to pay. The total to current date is due. Its like me not doing my taxes for seven years and receiving the letter from the cra that I had better bring my taxes to current year or face fines. Same deal for businesses.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

The idea was to give the Americans time to negotiate something before the tax came into effect. If they didn't do it in 3 years, I don't know why Carney thinks giving in will lead to any benefit for Canada.

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