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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] 87 points 3 months ago (16 children)

Technically I'm voting for Biden, in reality I'm voting against Trump. I really wish I had a better option...

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Outside of voting, you have options. I'm not American, but I'd advise any communists to vote Biden simply because the repression under Trump could get really ugly, hindering any proper organisation. Just view it as what I think it also actually is: A cynical, pragmatic move to save you and other working people from more open repression, nothing more.

But before and after voting: Put your energy into unions like the IWW, into neighbourhood organisations for mutual aid, into community defense like the SRA or Redneck Revolt, into antifascist organisation, into refining your own position and presenting it to others. Create networks and connections. All preventing Trump is doing is buying time for now to do exactly that. Things will only get worse in the decades ahead, with no end in sight for the climate catastrophe and further decay of capitalism - and laying the groundwork of actually being able to do something is critically important right now, in my opinion.

Of course everyone is in the end their own master when it comes to decisions like this. Just - remember that by not voting in this specific election you also aren't changing anything. And while I fully understand the desire to organise for a third party, they have been marginalised effectively, at least I personally don't think electoral politics will bring any relevant changes, one way or the other. They are just about who carries the whip used against you, and in this case if the are openly and harshly, or covertly and less efficiently using it.

That all being said - I think a few people here overestimate the amount of tankies and communists that won't vote Biden. The group is marginal in the big scheme of things. If Biden loses, you can be certain, they were not responsible, they are most likely less than 1% of voters. Personally, I'd blame the corporate core of the Democratic party and middle class liberals for being out of touch with reality.

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[–] [email protected] 182 points 3 months ago (54 children)

I am a tankie and voting for Biden lmao. The Prolitariat must be protected till enough class conciousness is achieved for Socialism to succeed.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (92 children)

You get it! We can't fuck over vulnerable people. We can't abandon minorities and LGBT people. Even if we let things get worse to the point of a societal collapse, a lot of people will die because of it -- and societal collapse has not historically led to better societies down the road.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Thank you for being a sane human 🙏

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

Most based .ml user

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Based and practicalpilled

[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 months ago (1 children)

THANK YOU. It's that fkin simple.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So simple, yet so hard for so many to understand.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tankies? CNN, MSNBC, and NYTimes are all concerned.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

No ones mad at you for voting you dweeb, some people just wont vote for him, the debate changed nothing.

I'm a tAnKiE and I dont even get a vote, pretend youre voting for me, have at it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

💤💤💤💤💤💤 nememene 💤💤💤💤💤💤 nememene 💤💤💤💤💤💤 🥱😌 a uh I uh a hmm? I skibdi with um hairy legs turn blonde... COVID dealing with uh....... everything hmmm... we had to uh deal with uh....... OOOooorereaaaa if we finally beat Medicare...... Finally beat Medicare

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

"Old man bad. His alternative not worse."

Are u a secret Republican or something?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

no old man funny

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