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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] [email protected] 179 points 4 months ago

If you ever find yourself reaching for the phrase "unwashed masses" unironically, you're the baddy.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago

As if he himself is not an unwashed mass.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?" -Andrew Ryan, a very smart man who went to live under the sea and I am sure nothing bad ever happened to.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 4 months ago (26 children)

I actually think universal basic income is a very flawed idea from a leftist perspective.

It is effectively a capitalist compromise that still puts all of the asset holders in immense positions of power. The only difference now is they effectively are governmentally enforced as those positions of power. It will make the wealth disparity exponentially worse.

The answer to our wealth disparity is to put power in the hands of the average person.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah. My fundamental problem with things like UBI, reform/regulation, etc is that it leaves power in the hands of capitalists. Maybe in the short term you get some gains for a broader segment of society like during the height of union power in the US, (recognizing that even that was imperfect because of segregation) but in the long term capitalists can keep using their wealth and power to chip away at those societal gains. The only way to counter this while maintaining capitalism would be perpetual political activism, but that's simply not feasible. People need to sleep, eat, work, and live their lives. Corporations don't. They can hire lobbyists and lawyers to keep chipping away long after everyone else goes home.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Good first step though. Imagine all the protest/riot organising time we'd have

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

The answer to our wealth disparity is to put power in the hands of the average person.

Pay people to vote.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

The answer to our wealth disparity is to put power in the hands of the average person.

Average voter: "Ugh, all the power and responsibility is too much work. Can't we just elect someone that takes care of all of this for us?" Congress/parliaments are born. "Ugh, keeping track of all these politicians and their policies and waiting for them to enact laws is too slow and tedious. Can't we just elect some sort of super politician that promises to take care of all our problems quickly?"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

Why not both? We're already at dystopian levels of wealth vs poor, let's make the transition easier on the poor.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

We should have universal basic dividand.

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