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I've been working on converting my gaming PC to Linux for a few weeks, but everything is running, but it all is just a little jankier than I would like.

I have an 8th gen Intel i7 and an Rtx 2070, running Arch linux.

Sometimes I boot up and my mouse doesn't work and I have to restart. Sometimes I launch games and they just don't launch right.

It feels like I'm doing a lot of work for no benefit. In fact, Elden ring runs way worse on my Linux partition than my Windows partition.

I've tried GE proton, gamemode, steam compatibility, everything... I'm sorry but I'm going to have to stick with Windows for gaming.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Do people not use Manjaro for this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

For a long time I couldn't get a stable distro working on my HP laptop with Intel 4 core & Nvidia 1660ti but after numerous successful daily driving on my desktops + steam deck of course I tried Bazzite which did the trick. Everything runs smoother & I haven't encountered anything unable to run because the steam proton is mature. Lutris is perfect for anything to do with alternative launchers, roms, I even got modded black ops 2 working and I never thought that would be possible.

I wish you the best of luck.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

This may seem odd, but check if your mobo has a bios update. Often bios break uefi standards to appease Microsofts non-standard requirements.

These get fixed overtime as ACPI bugs are fixed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Allow me to piggyback on this a bit, s'il vous plait.

Is there a Linux distribution that will run Adobe CC out of the box, games from Steam, and VR headsets? I need a new desktop badly, but I need to be able to use Adobe products as part of my job. (No, I can't switch to GNU products, because I get files from clients, and I have to be able to work to industry standards.) I've used Tails before, which is not a user-friendly product, and it doesn't play nicely with any other software.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Pretty much any major distro is going to have similar support for all of that. And for Adobe CC, that's going to be limited at best. You didn't specify which part of CC you need, but here's an option for installing Photoshop 2022 on Linux. Trying to get the latest is likely going to be painful, since WINE would probably lag with supporting all the new updates.

Steam works pretty well pretty much everywhere. I've used it on Fedora, Arch, and openSUSE, and I'm sure it works fine on any Debian-based distro. VR support is similar, you're going to have a much better time with SteamVR headsets. That said, here's a guide to VR on Linux, stick to "confirmed working" sections for minimal tinkering.

Tails

Yeah, don't use that for regular work, that's an uber-paranoid distro that's intentionally locked down, which means things are likely going to be more difficult to get working.

Try Linux Mint or Fedora (or Bazzite if you want gamer flavor), they're both solid and tend to work pretty well out of the box. Software and hardware support doesn't vary much between distros, so if it you can't get it working with one of those and it's not "officially supported" (i.e. instructions aren't in one of my links), distro hopping probably won't help.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have to use Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, and Acrobat Pro every day for my day job. I have to keep up-to-date with my versions, because clients send me files that use features in the latest releases, and not being up-to-date means that things don't render correctly. (I'm super-pissed that I have to update since Adobe dropped all support for Pantone colors abut a year (?) ago.)

I use Corel Painter 2022 and a Wacom pen display for fun. My guess is that a pen display might get a little weird in Linux, but the one I have is not cutting edge at least.

Yeah, don’t use that for regular work, that’s an uber-paranoid distro that’s intentionally locked down, which means things are likely going to be more difficult to get working.

I know, I know, but I liked being functionally untrackable online, and not getting ads shoved down my throat (...despite working in advertising...) all the time. It's neat, but almost everything online seems to have privacy-invading features so deeply embedded that the browser built into Tails just can't use them at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, and Acrobat Pro every day for my day job

Probably easier to run a VM or dual-boot then. Trying to keep those up-to-date is going to be a nightmare.

Honestly, if I were in your shoes, I'd probably get an Apple device. Adobe works great, and macOS isn't as bad as Windows IMO.

I liked being functionally untrackable online, and not getting ads shoved down my throat

There are a lot of ways to get around that, such as:

  • uBlock Origin - blocks ads
  • use a VPN and switch locations periodically - limits efficacy of tracking
  • try Mullvad Browser - basically Tor Browser (i.e. the browser included w/ Tails), but without Tor, so fewer breakages

But honestly, the first two are really easy to do and solve 80% of the problem with a very small amount of breakage, and Firefox is installed by default in most Linux distros, and is available in the repositories on those where it's not the default.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, if I were in your shoes, I’d probably get an Apple device.

Sadly, I also don't like spending money. :P You used to be able to make Hackintoshes, but Apple tends to break them with every software update.

I had been thinking about getting an IoT Enterprise LTSC release of Windows and manually adding the components that I needed. Might still do that with dual boot.

There are a lot of ways to get around that, such as:

I'm doing all of that except the last one already. As has been noted in many other places, Windows itself is now in the business of serving ads directly, and it looks like that's getting harder and harder to disable. I managed to mostly lock down the Pro release of Win 10 that I'm on right now, but Win 11 will make that much, much harder. If it weren't for security issues surrounding end of product life, I wouldn't switch versions at all.

C'est la mort.

But yeah, I'll def. look for a user-friendly version of Linux when I build my next system in a few months.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

So it goes.

Good luck! I also don't like spending money, so I don't blame you. Definitely consider a dual-boot w/ Linux though, it can at least help you separate work from play. :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I understand your struggle. As others said, Arch is not a beginner friendly distro.

I would suggest trying gaming tailored distros like Nobara, Chimera or Bazzite and see how you feel about them. Don't install your full steam library during these testing period, try games separately and prioritize the games you play the most.

Learning involves trial and error and the Linux ecosystem has a lot of that.

In the end it's ok if you say This is not for me right now

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Do you have any comments/suggestions on picking one of those distros? I can do my own research so no pressure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you're a beginner... or hate jank, don't use Arch. And make sure you're using a desktop environment that supports Wayland (GNOME or KDE). Gaming on X11 can be buggy, janky and inconsistent

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They are running Nvidia. Their only option for Wayland is kde.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Nothing, I was just stating that the only real option for an easy Nvidia Wayland experience right now is kde. If anything it’s a complement.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Arch for a beginner can be a bit too much.

Try Bazzite.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I installed Bazzite on my gaming computer and it just isn't great, there is screen flickering and occasional crashes:( I am not going back to Windows but it has required more emotional energy to troubleshoot than I wanted

I probably should get an AMD card, but I am going to try Nobara next to see if it just works...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I also heard good things about Nobara in terms of gaming. Haven't tried it myself though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I've been using Nobara 39 for the last month and it has been a smooth ride. I'm playing Elden Ring with 0 issues and no tweaking needed on my part. The only friction I had was with the installer because I have a Nvidia card but once installed and got drivers updated all issues were gone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Good luck! Linux is sadly not quite yet for everyone, but it’s so much further along than it was when I started in 1999.

I bounced between Linux and Windows for decades, but when the Recall debacle happened, it became clear that Microsoft have lost their collective minds. I wiped my system, put Garuda Linux on it, and everything works quite well for me with no tinkering except with user-level KDE settings. I also changed from an NVIDIA RTX 3070Ti to an AMD RX 7800XT just so everything related to graphics would just work and I didn’t have to wait and hope that explicit sync really does fix everything for NVIDIA on Wayland.

I also use proton-ge for everything (in Steam as well as in Lutris which uses umu-launcher) and every game I’ve attempted to run (thus far on the order of 35+ games), has run great, including Elden Ring. I’ve found in my 25 years experience, the trick with Linux is two-fold: researching hardware to guarantee full Linux support…and having patience. And I’ve fell victim to that last one dozens of times over the years which led me back to windows each time.

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