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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Cheney did 9/11

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It wasn't really a failure of the intelligence community it was a failure of the Bush administration. Bush couldn't believe his "friends" in Saudi Arabia would do anything to harm his administration, after all his family had had a long and profitable association with them for years.

Plus, at the time the Bush administration was up to its neck in scandals (anyone remember the Enron Scandal?). Bush's popularity had cratered and it was looking increasingly like he would loose the midterms and Presidential elections.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I hate the accuracy of your analysis because you are 100% right that so much of that era was forgotten (except by those who lived it and still hold onto those details). Enron had absolutely turned Texas into scrutiny central and someone in Bush's administration didn't like their friends going to jail for being corrupt. The Bush family had also used their connections to Saud to enrich them and their friends during the 90s without knowing that they were being used. 9/11 is the day Bush realizes it and was completely unable to do anything about it because of hat direct family connection. So instead America invaded Afghanistan and Iraq as a distraction.

The entire foreign policy of right wingers is cleaning up the personal history of the grifters who run the party.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder if this is being released now to distract from thoughts of any Israeli involvement in 9/11 such as the ‘dancing Israelis’

Hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I don’t think it would surprise many at this point if Israel did orchestrate the whole thing. Israel really had the most to benefit from 9/11.

"during the incident" —referring to the World Trade Center attack. The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem."

That’s quite chilling.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

What's more likely: a rather straight forward plot by a bunch of fanatical fundamentalist religious nut jobs bent on destroying the "godless American devils" supported by their equally fanatical fundamentalist nation state or an incredibly complicated plot by a third party? See, this is why Occam's Razor exists.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Decarbonize/Desaudify

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A 25-year-old video has come to light of a man identified by the FBI as a Saudi intelligence agent filming locations in the center of Washington three months before Al-Qaida decided to carry out the 9/11 attacks.

The footage, shot in the summer of 1999 and in the possession of the FBI, was unsealed in a court action by families of the victims of 9/11, who claim that Saudi Arabia’s government was complicit in the event, which the country’s rulers deny.

The film was initially found by UK investigators in Bayoumi’s flat in the days after the attack in 2001, when he was a PhD student at Aston University in Birmingham.

An FBI report declassified in March 2022 presented evidence of “a 50/50 chance [Bayoumi] had advanced knowledge the 9/11 attacks were to occur” from his relationship with Hazmi and Mihdhar.

Another bureau report declassified the year before says he gave significant help to the pair after their arrival in the US, and communicated with a key logistics facilitator for Osama bin Laden each time he assisted them.

The official 9/11 Commission report, a 585-page document published in 2004 from the findings of an inquiry set up by the US government, concluded that intelligence failures on the part of the CIA and FBI were primarily to blame for the attack.


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