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jwz: Mozilla is an advertising company now (www.jwz.org)

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Also from Jamie Zawinski yesterday: Mozilla's Original Sin

Some will tell you that Mozilla's worst decision was to accept funding from Google, and that may have been the first domino, but I hold that implementing DRM is what doomed them, as it led to their culture of capitulation. It demonstrated that their decisions were the decisions of a company shipping products, not those of a non-profit devoted to preserving the open web.

Those are different things and are very much in conflict. They picked one. They picked the wrong one.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Any opinions on Opera? I used it 1000 years ago. I liked it but then they started charging or something and switched to Firefox. Then Brave which was my favorite but is a problem I guess. I used Chrome for a short time until I learned it was Google crap. So now I'm back to Firefox. I see Opera is still around though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Opera is now owned by a Chinese company, it is just a webkit/blink shell and, I have zero trust in them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

opera is just chrome these days with a thin veneer of opera junk on top. Brave is just chrome with adblock built in selling you crypto, Vivaldi is chrome with Vivaldi veneer, heck, even edge is just chrome with microsoft replacing google. Firefox is the last true remaining non chrome browser, which is terrifying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Firefox is the last true remaining non chrome browser

safari: what am i chopped liver?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

fair, it's been a while since i used it, but when i did it was utterly useless on anything except apple products, which doesn't make it particularly useful. Things may have changed though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

things did change, they no longer even offer it for anything except apple products, so if you want to use safari on windows it's 11 years out of date, and any other OS is just a full on no. So yeah, i'd say we're back to firefox as the only real alternative.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

The only thing worse than open source Chromium-based browsers like Brave are proprietary ones like Opera and Vivaldi.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Sure is. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago (1 children)

people complain when they were dependent on google and now they complain when they push an alternative to google that is a privacy friendly advertising firm.

like it or not most sites depend on advertising; offering an alternative to google is exactly what the foundation should be doing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

THANK YOU

They gotta survive somehow and people would complain regardless.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That website raped my eyes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, it fucking sucks [blah, blah, blah], it's green text on black.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago

Best option though. Chromium browsers are all subject to google's wrath, and there are plenty of Firefox forks to go around. If you don't like vanilla Firefox, try Abrowser, available on Trisquel GNU/Linux, a fully libre GNU/Linux Distribution as well as from the Arch GNU/Linux User Repository.

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