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[–] [email protected] 108 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Its funny how we cant use VPNs but companies will go to the country with the lowest wages to get workers.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've never seen a company SO devoted to get me to not use their service. $2-$3 a month is worth not seeing ads in my mind. They've made their website SO user hostile and their prices are just too damned high to justify paying them - I can just go without.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (4 children)

If I could get Youtube Premium for $2-3, I'd probably pay. I don't use it enough to justify spending $10 or whatever it is these days, so I block ads. If that stops working, I'll stop watching Youtube.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I realize they charge what people are willing to pay, but can someone explain to me why YouTube costs just a couple USD a month in some countries and almost $20 a month in the US?

Are operating costs cheaper in those countries? Are they taking a loss in those counties? Or are they just price gouging in the US?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If they raise the prices in those countries they would make less money because volume of subscribers would go down enough for total income to decrease.

If they lowered the price in the US, they would make less money because the subscribers they would gain would not be enough to offset the reduced income from each.

That's it, it has nothing to do with operating costs or fairness, it's just a question of what price point they believe will make them the most money in a given market.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Thanks. That’s something I hadn’t thought of.

I’m sort of more moderate when it comes to paying Google to access YouTube. I’m happy to pay for products that I use. I want Google and creators to be rewarded for services rendered, but the prices are double what they should be.

I’m one of the people who used the VPN to get Premium at an affordable rate even though I have Ublock and know about other options.

My Premium account did get canceled. I was able to sign back up via another location, but if they push me out again, I would just revert to adblockers.

I suspect other users who signed up with a VPN are like me. We are the few who know how to get around the ads but want to pay, if we can. Just a guess though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

In theory the service operating costs could be spread across region differences such that in other areas it was at a loss to build and preserve market share and in richer areas it was making up for that.

But yes, in reality it's just exploitative "what we think we can get away with" pricing to "maximize shareholder value" (which is largely BS as the vast holders of shares are very small clusters of the population but people with a handful of shares in their 401k think that statement is talking about them).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Some media companies called it piracy even if you're doing it to get paid access content they aren't offering in your country 🤷

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Well they are charging a premium for the service everywhere and more so in certain countries which can afford it but a big part is that in some countries people may only earn a few USD a day so they would not be able to afford it otherwise. I can’t speak on whether or not they are taking a loss in those countries, but i can’t imagine that they have a problem due to existing infrastructure from google all across the world.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

If you have an iPhone or iPad you don’t even need to use a VPN to get cheap Premium. Just make an new Apple ID with an Indian address, top it up by buying a digital Apple Card on Amazon.in and redeeming it to your Indian account in iTunes on a computer. Then on your iPad or iPhone go to your Apple ID in the settings, log out of Media and Purchases and login with the Indian account. Then you can buy Premium in the YouTube app with your Rupees, you don’t even need to change your YouTube account.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (17 children)

If you pay for YouTube premium, you're a clown and you're only fueling the enshittification.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Youtube might be the literal most valuable site in my life, up there with Wikipedia and search engines.

A large part of my payment also goes to the channels I view.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Really? I watch very little Youtube, so I'd rather not use it than pay $10+ for it. I'm currently able to block ads, so I'll watch as long as that's an option.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it has news, educational, and entertaining content. It’s a lot of value for me.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you watch ads instead of paying a modest fee to remove them then you're a clown. Companies do need to make money for the services they provide, I just disagree with the amount.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (5 children)

“Modest?” $14 a month? $5 would be modest. I literally pay less for whole as streaming services.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I'd probably pay $5, and I'd certainly pay $2-3. But I don't watch enough to justify $10+/month.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

They make enough off of all my data they collect. I'm not paying them a cent for anything and I'm not watching a single ad. If you want to watch ads for shareholders, you are most definitely a clown.

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