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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If you pay for YouTube premium, you're a clown and you're only fueling the enshittification.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Ads are bad (I agree).

Paying for things is bad.

Then what's left? YouTube should somehow be ad free and free of cost for the user forever and ever? Who's gonna pay for the enormous costs of operating the service?

People are going to start yelling at me about capitalism and enshitiffication. Both of which cause problems, but what do you propose here? Magic?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

I'm not opposed to paying for online services in general, I'm just not going to pay them to make the site worse with every update. (Plus I kinda categorically refuse to give Google money at this point.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I propose YouTube make a MUCH better premium product and price it correctly. Paying for things is fine. Paying for things to get crappier? Na

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How is YouTube getting crappier for me as a paying customer? I feel like it hasn't really changed in years.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Glad you enjoy it. Keep doing your thing. But are you seriously deaf to the rising chorus of complaints about YouTube? This thread contains many examples of youtube's enshitification over the few couple years. Your question feels disingenuous at best to me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Name one complaint, other than blocking people with ad blockers. How has the actual product changed?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Increased family plan sharing restrictions

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Inability to remove shorts from homescreen (decision reversed due to consumer outcry)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

4k premium only (decision reversed due to consumer outcry)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Inability to purchase only YouTube music

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The death of Google music

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Price increases

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The worsening of recommendations/algorithm pointing to more crap content

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago

I'll still call someone a clown for paying even if I'm able to acknowledge that someone has to hold the bag. Just ain't gonna me or hopefully anyone I care about.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Youtube might be the literal most valuable site in my life, up there with Wikipedia and search engines.

A large part of my payment also goes to the channels I view.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Really? I watch very little Youtube, so I'd rather not use it than pay $10+ for it. I'm currently able to block ads, so I'll watch as long as that's an option.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it has news, educational, and entertaining content. It’s a lot of value for me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Unpopular opinion, but I also use YouTube almost exclusively.

It has my podcasts, my political livestreamers, late night shows, and multiple channels that I follow.

I also enjoy YouTube music as well.

I bought a full year, which lowers the price a little.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you watch ads instead of paying a modest fee to remove them then you're a clown. Companies do need to make money for the services they provide, I just disagree with the amount.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

“Modest?” $14 a month? $5 would be modest. I literally pay less for whole as streaming services.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I pay less than 5usd for a family plan, I just subscribed through a developing nation with a VPN.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which, as the article states, they are starting to end that practice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

That was my comment about the amount that should be charged. I'll happily pay $5/mo, but not $15. I'm happy to pay for services, just not the amount that many want to charge.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you watch enough youtube per month to see an hour of ads and you can't block ads for some reason, you may actually be losing time/money by not paying the subscription. That said, there are ad blockers for almost every platform so it shouldn't be too difficult to find one that works.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I'd probably pay $5, and I'd certainly pay $2-3. But I don't watch enough to justify $10+/month.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

They make enough off of all my data they collect. I'm not paying them a cent for anything and I'm not watching a single ad. If you want to watch ads for shareholders, you are most definitely a clown.