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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Tbf if they were outside the classroom, then we lack the data to say "it's proof more guns inside don't help."

I know it's nitpicking, but also had they done their actual jobs they're fucking paid to do, but not required to do thanks to Castle Rock V Gonzales and Warren V DC, then the "more guns" would likely have been what killed him instead of "his own gun."

I understand why the anti self defense crowd wants to use this as fodder for their agenda, but personally this speaks more of the failures of our entire policing system to me. Frankly to me it's a glaring example of why we need to be able to defend ourselves, the cheesedicks we pay to come help us won't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How are you liking Reddit so far?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I left before you did my dude. I've been here since before the exodus, what's my .ml acct in my bio at by now, 2yr? Get good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It says 3 years on Jerboa.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah lets arm the children! And school teachers!

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BTW you can understand that "outside the classroom" with just minimal intelligence IMO.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Hell yeah that's what I said! Definitely didn't say "the cops should have used their guns inside the school to do their fucking job" or anything.

Can I help you learn to read or something? I'll help sponsor whatever today's equivalent to Hooked On Phonics is for you if you promise you'll study this time.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

There is no fixing that collective of cowards and abusers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For what does the yellow square stand?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (10 children)

What's the point of all that military gear they're wasting tax payer money on then? Fascist cosplay?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s to use on protesters, not on actual crime.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Shooter was not pregnant enough.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

If they are actually fascists then it isn't cosplay though.

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