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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"Retarded" can't be a slur because it can be used to describe slowed/inhibited things that aren't people. "Retard" is a slur derived from the adjective "Retarded". Unlike the F-slur, N-word, and all the other colorful terms hateful people use to show people that they aren't welcome on the basis of their identity, retarded has OTHER MEANINGS, and it is so much more apt a word than "Dumb" or "Slow" in so many contexts that it's frankly (choose your adjective here) that we should have to walk on eggshells around it.

Expressing disrespect for a person for things outside their control is cowardly and close-minded. We should censor people who try to co-opt the group they are speaking in to express their prejudice. But extending the censorship of a slur to its root word, even for innocuous contexts, is an overreach of the social policing of our language. It sets a bad example, since ANY WORD can be made to be an insult to someone if used that way, and we set a bad cultural precedent by doing this for "retarded"

I understand that there's no council that decides what is or isn't acceptable to say, but I really wish people would think about this with a little more nuance than just "R-word detected, speaker shall be shunned" without considering the context. The way I see it, refusal to consider context is a redirection of the same kind of prejudiced thinking that makes slurs bad. But it's being applied to a person's speech rather than their identity, so it's not as bad a thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They are entirely different words. No one is calling for an outright ban on those letters; that's a sentiment you made up.

Don't use it as a slur. If you are using the word in another, legitimate context where it's not a slur, I don’t give a fuck. But stop arguing that those two uses are somehow indistinguishable because that's just not true.

Edit:

Unlike the F-slur, N-word, and all the other colorful terms…

This is false. Examples: "cracker," the b-word, the f-slur (in UK contexts), "queer," "gay."

All of these have other legitimate meanings. So, please reconsider your defense of this specific term, because you’re not even arguing it based on facts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is this just a general "don't use slurs" or is this a reference to some current event I missed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

don’t use slurs

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

As someone who learned English through internet, I just thought it had the same meaning as idiot. Took me a long time to actually know the correct meaning.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think it's fine in its original contexts (i.e. "retardant", or to "retard" something), but could maybe be avoided in 80% of cases.

It is inexcusable to apply it to people though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I used it yesterday and feel kinda bad. Having said that, the guy I said it to was in an online lobby and I'd said one word on mic and he immediately asked if I was a baddie and told me to rate myself out of 10 for him.

I said some not okay things...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

those are entirely different words; different parts of speech, etc :) fully agree but it’s helpful to think of it that way instead

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