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Hi, Once in a while I try to clean up my tabs. First thing I do is use "merge all windows" to put all tabs into one window.

This often causes a memory clog and firefox get stuck in this state for 10-20 minutes

I have recorded one such instance.

I have tried using the "discard all tabs" addon, unfortunately, it is also getting frozen by the memory clog.

Sometimes I will just reboot my PC as that is faster.

Unfortunately, killing firefox this way, does not save the new tab order, so when I start firefox again, it will have 20+ windows open, which I again, merge all pages and then it clogs again !

So far the only solution I have found is just wait the 20 minutes.

Once the "memory clog" is passed, it runs just fine.

I would like better control over tab discard. and maybe some way of limitting bloat. For instance, I would rather keep a lower number of undiscarded youtube that as they seem to be insanely bloated.

In other cases, for most website I would like to never discard the contents.

In my ideal world, I would like the tabs to get frozen and saved to disk permanently, rather than assuming discard tabs can be reloaded. As if the websites were going to exist forever and discarding a tab is like cleaning a cache.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You have 64GB RAM and that's still not enough for your browser. Wow.

I've come away from this with only more questions. What does your Downloads folder/Filesystem look like? Do you have notebooks or any real world allocation of information? What's that like? What kinds of things do you keep in a junk drawer?

Absolutely fascinating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I do not waste time sorting, emails, downloads and bookmarks

For my linux ISOs, which I have approx 60 terabyte of, I use dedicated sorting software and it does a really good job of keeping it all organized. I also make liberal use of symlinks and hardlinks to keep the original alive while also keeping things organized.

As for notes, I have notepad++ with an endless series of titled untitled text files of everything I ever want to remembered. Shared accross computers using a local git server

On my phone I have google keep which has a list of notes that has long since become far too long to scroll to the bottom off of. I am in the process of degoogling and I want to switch to a selfhosted file centric markdown note taking web app, not decided on which but this video is probably going to be one of them.

I don't have a junk drawer, my stuff is sorted into bins, here is a glimpse of that

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Why do you need so many open tabs to begin with? What is your usecase?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've read this entire thread like three times and watched all the videos you've posted, and I still don't understand your workflow at all.

If searching bookmarks/history is harder than using Google to just find the thing you want to get back to, why do you need to keep the things you want to get back to open rather than just using Google to find the page again later? Or when you want to get back to something you (think you?) have left open, do you find it just by scrolling through all your tabs until a title/favicon looks like what you're looking for?

Your last paragraph makes it seem like maybe you want to keep the tabs open so if the page/content gets deleted off of the server, you don't lose it. Is that correct? I'd imagine that doesn't always accomplish that, though, right? (Particularly for something like YouTube.) If that's a significant part of why you keep the tabs open, though, maybe that bit at least is a good question for a data hoarder community.

I haven't been able to find any "discard all tabs" addon for Firefox by Googling. And I can't guess what exactly it does. (Does it save tab states to disk and suspend - but also leave open - all tabs or something?) Are you sure that's the name of the addon you're using?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Oh, hmm, interesting. I would simply not bother trying to clean up your tabs (it's what I do, 6476 baby!).

Perhaps consider also getting more RAM. 128 is good, 256 is better. Thanks to ddr5, ddr4 isn't all that expensive now (and 5000 series can't use ddr5 anyways).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I got some old HP G8 DL380 servers with 384GB ram in each, I am investigating running firefox in a VM on them and then somehow making only the firefox window appear on my PC. That would be awesome. I would have practically unlimited ram !

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Reduce to a sane number. Like less than 20.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You're not likely going to get any real help since you're insisting on using the browser in an extreme and unconventional way. Your little world is just one browser/OS crash from losing all of those tabs.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The solution is to see a psychotherapist because dude is there something strange happening in your brain and it really needs fixing.

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