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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Every time Democratic candidates fail to appease progressives and every time they blame the voters. Sorry for having standards but I can not in good conscience vote for someone funding a genocide.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Democrats will never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Up against Trump the loser, they're pitting... a once-great retirement home escapee. Come on guys in a country of several hundred million people, surely you can do better than this.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Al gore got fucked and he should have been president

The same way Bernie got fucked by the DNC and would have won against trump if he had been the nominee

Hillary Clinton is at best centre right and was an absolutely horseshit choice, her only redeeming feature was she wasnt trump

Maybe democrats should actually be progressive and not all be owned by corporations and then people would go for them

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

A fucken men

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I miss when Lemmy was a socialist platform. It's full of "vote blue no matter who" people now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's no contradiction there. Being socialist doesn't make you stupid

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, voting blue no matter who is still in my best interest.

I hate it and it sucks, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

This enables Democrats to do anything they want, like genocide.

We can't force Biden to stop because he believes you will vote blue no matter who.

It is 100% your fault that the protests and uncommitted vote have limited to no effect.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In a two party first past the post system, not voting (or throwing away your vote on a candidate who will not win) benefits the candidate you least want because it effectively gives half your vote to each side

In the general elections, voting blue no matter who is harm reduction, the time for activism was back in the primaries

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Okay? The point I'm making, which you have totally ignored, is that votes are the only leverage that we have. By throwing my vote away the Democrats can't have it, and if enough people do that they lose. Supposedly they want to win, so they need to convince me to note vote for Aaron Bushnell this November. By deciding to enslave yourself to the Democrats and slavishly give them your support no matter what they have no reason to not get even worse. By next year they'll have moved even farther to the right and it will be your fault because you refused to use the only leverage you have to move them to the left.

Every election cycle the Democrats just become the Republicans from the last election cycle. Biden is doing genocide, violating international law by limiting asylum seekers, and marching us towards WW3. How much worse will they get if they aren't stopped?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (7 children)

and if enough people do that they lose

and then things get even worse for everyone, including Palestinians

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Don't forget that he's also made more progress on building the southern border wall and killing the asylum process than trump did in his 4 years. But he wears a blue tie (Good Guys) and that's all that really matters.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the time for activism was back in the primaries

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you are only allowed to do activism once every eight years

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's primaries for federal elections every 2 years in the US, if you want to change the makeup of the party, vote for different candidates in them

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Y'all attacked the uncommitted movement too and circled the wagons, ensuring it would fail to accomplish anything.

Thanks to you Biden knows he can do as much genocide as he wants and not lose any of your votes. You are to blame.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I never did, that's the least destructive way to let your displeasure be known, as long as you still vote for, and encourage others to vote for, the least bad candidates in the general elections (spoilers, the least bad candidates will pretty much universally be blue)

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

All this that does is ensure this election's Democrat is the same as last election's Republican, they constantly move as far to the right as you let them because they know they can count on your vote no matter what. You are making things worse. Maybe you, specifically, didn't speak out against uncommitted. The whole .world instance definitely did, though. We remember.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (7 children)

All this that does is ensure this election’s Democrat is the same as last election’s Republican

Even if this is true and we're in a metaphorical political nosedive, that's still harm reduction, it's 4 more years to be politically active in a functioning democracy, vote in every primary and general you can from your local school board up to the presidential election, and hopefully pull up hard enough that we don't actually smash into the ground

If you think our democracy is already too far gone and completely unsalvageable, you shouldn't be advocating for other people not to vote, you should instead be advocating for people to join/form a local militia and start training to defend it because clearly it's already time to break out the 4th box

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Those one-liners don't come close to describing the reason voters rejected those candidates.

Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schultz backstabbing Bernie Sanders had to be a huge part of why people hated her.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Accuracy is not the goal, smug indignation is. You never have to examine your beliefs if you just blame someone else for the loss.

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