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Hey, I wanna know your preferred laptops, used is better and to run Linux on it. Something with at least 16gb and 512 SSD is good. Budget range. Thank you!

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (5 children)

A "factory seconds" framework 13 might fit your budget, and you get a laptop that is easily repairable and upgradeable. The 11th gen i7 version that starts at $500 is what I have been using for a couple of years now and still runs great.

They also have refurbished laptops, but those seem to start a little bit more expensive.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I wanted a thin and light laptop for travel, I was looking between an X1 Carbon 9th gen, or a HP dragonfly gen 2, I ended up scoring a HP with a i5-1145g7, 16gb lpddr4 for $275 on eBay.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I have an old Lenovo W550s Thinkpad with a 2GB Dedicated Nvidia and an i5 5500U. It's got two batteries and sips power. It's only 4 cores, but for what I run it does great. I get fairly consistent 60fps on low settings for "boomer shooters" like Selaco. The thing is an absolute beast and hardly flexes. The plastic is cracked and I can just hand it to my kids without a care in the world. Dump a drink on it, drop it, I could care less. I had them help me change out the RAM and SSD because it's essentially bound for the dumpster and any value I get out of it is the cherry on top.

That and I can run pretty much and retro gaming console on it to about the Wii/GameCube, which blows my mind. All for probably like $200 of hardware.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

"Couldn't care less"

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Few years old Dell laptop, they are incredible, even easy to open and repair, parts available everywhere, BIOS update even after 5 or 6 years.

You can buy a few years old Latitude for maybe $200, 14", i5 8th gen, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, wifi, bt, webcam, usb-c, name it.

Being 8th gen it runs win11, but they also run Linux pretty well, I'm running MX Linux (debian based) on them and everything is supported.

example https://www.ebay.ca/itm/115672158079

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

When it comes to expensive laptops, there are plenty of good options for Linux. But for cheaper stuff, your best bet might be a second hand DELL, a model that specifically says that it supports Linux (newer models use some new Intel webcams etc that don't have support on linux yet).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I cannot say that I have done extensive testing, but the Acer Swift 315-51G and Gigabyte Aero WV8 that I have both worked fine with Linux with zero prior research on my part. No issues with any drivers, even the SD card readers, although I have not checked the fingerprint sensor on the Acer. Maybe I have just been lucky.

Both have hybrid Nvidia graphics, though, and 10-series and prior hybrid graphics especially, as I understand, have issues with high idle power usage unless you manually disable the dGPU when not gaming, which I had to do using envycontrol and nearly doubled my battery life on both. I might avoid hybrid dGPUs and especially older ones unless you need that.

Used laptop-wise, I agree with others that a used business laptop like a Dell would probably be your best bet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Are running 2 Dell's at home with Linux desktop on them. A 7280 and a 7480 model. Support for drivers etc just works. Dell get's A+ from me in regards to ease of use with support for Linux. HP's, not so much - what a struggle....

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I am gonna get a shit ton of hate for this... MacBook air. Yes, I am on a Linux sublemmy, saying that I like macs but the hardware is just too good to justify spending money on a x86 laptop.

Though, those new snapdragon X Elite laptops do look pretty spicy... Too bad they weren't yet announced when I bought my Mac.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This may be an unpopular opinion, but you can use pretty much anything you like, as long as it isn't brand new or extremely old.
Even stuff with Nvidia GPUs and stuff.
Even MS Surface devices work decently.

Thing is, for a really smooth experience, where you don't feel like a second class citizen, and everything works ootb, proper support is advantageous.

I have a Dell XPS laptop, and it works fine. Sometimes, the WiFi switches itself off, and I have to restart the connection, but other than that, everything is flawless.
Thinkpads are great too, since they are also used heavily in offices, where they get thrown out or sold cheaply. Maybe ask there.

I personally would recommend something that you can repair yourself, or at least change the battery and memory.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I wouldn’t recommend macs in general. Anything with a touch bar (intels from ca 2018-19 and on) are tricky to get to run Linux at all, anything with apple silicon is very experimental, and the older models have Broadcom Wi-Fi that doesn’t ship with drivers on any distribution I know of.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is a pity because MacBooks pro from ca 2013-2015 are great; cheap second hand because they’re out of support in macOS, good screens, excellent build quality and fast enough for anything you want to do with them.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you're on a small budget, look for older ThinkPad laptops, you can get them for good prices and in good condition and Linux works very well on them.

For mid-range try to find an older Dell XPS 13, they sold those as certified Linux devices nicknamed "Developer Edition" and with an Ubuntu LTS version preinstalled. I have one of those and I run Arch on it. It runs perfectly fine. Also: superb build quality! It's a very great device.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Also note that Thinkpads up to a couple of years ago (when soldering RAM became a thing) are mostly trivial to open and upgrade RAM / drives, so you don't have to care about those and can pick up a bargain (look to T480 at the moment (not the TN screen tho), or whatever is 3 years or so old, as that's the corporate fleets that are getting dumped onto the market).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not all Thinkpads work equally well. For the best experience, get an all-Intel one, from one of the more expensive business lines, like the T-series. Consumer models are definitely worse, because employees of big Linux-using tech firms are getting the pro models.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What problems with AMD Ryzen? I've been happy with them, except one that had excessive power drain on suspend.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So it's preferable to take a x, p or t series?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I bought an E595 back then and it works great. But I dont know how the actual E series behave. There werent also no problems at all with Linux. More important is the question which wifi module you choose, and mine had one from realtek (there were no Intel Option sadly) and the wifi performance wasnt that great because of that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I haven't kept up with all the various lines they're up to now, but that looks about right. Also obviously doesn't hurt to google the exact model. Someone I know got an old tabletty Thinkpad with a touchscreen (don't know what model) and on that one the webcam doesn't work on Linux, so something like that can happen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I personally went with a P15 model and have been beyond happy with mine. Got that numpad too 🙌

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've had good experiences with most modern Dell Laptops. Also Thinkpads. What's "budget range" to you?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't go really beyond 600 bucks And old or new thinkpads?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

New ish. My current Thinkpad is a P14s Gen 1 with a Ryzen 4750U 16GB of RAM, and it came with a 512GB SSD. I paid just under $300 for it on eBay and well worth the cost. I wouldn't get anything that is still a TXXX variant anymore though (e g. T490), they simplified the product line. So T490 was replaced by the E14 Gen 1, and the P14s Gen 1 is an AMD variant.

Highly recommend. One thing worth noting though is to double check the fingerprint reader if you desire that, the E14 Gen 1 has a reader not compatible with Linux in a functional way. The P14s Gen 1 however does.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fingerprint readers are definitely hit or miss... If you care make sure it was originally specced for linux (usually at least Red Hat), then you're probably good for any distro.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And do you a t14 is worthing it?

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