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Sorry for the brief bits of downtime here and there, I snuck in a quick upgrade of us to the latest lemmy 0.19.4 now that a few bugs have been patched out.

More details here! https://join-lemmy.org/news/2024-06-07_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.4_-_Image_Proxying_and_Federation_improvements

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Does anyone else find that the cross-post function no longer works after the upgrade? Clicking the cross-post icon brings up the form correctly, but as soon as you select the language or the community, the form clears itself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Yes, known bug.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I can't select a different feed or select sort options on community/feed pages or posts

I use the web version on FireFox. I've been experiencing these issues for about 12 hours (some time following the upgrade to 0.19.4). It doesn't matter if I'm signed in or not - Lemmy.ca is pretty unusable. I'm not experiencing this with other instances. Is anyone else experiencing this?

I was going to create a post about this, but I can't post either. As soon as my cursor leaves the title or body fields, the text in those fields disappears

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No issues with sort options for posts/comments for me currently with Firefox 127 on macOS.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Agreed. I updated to Firefox 127 and that fixed it. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Thanks for the report!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can you try clearing your cache? I use Firefox and haven't run into any of this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, Shadow! That didn't work unfortunately, but if this is just a me thing, I can deal with it. I don't have the most up-to-date version of FF, which could be part of the issue

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Try a private window as well, that will rule out any plugins or extensions causing it.

It really sounds like a cache issue though if you don't run into this on other instances. There's nothing special about our code.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, you've been very generous with your time and I don't want to take any more of it up. I tried cache clearing, private window, computer restart. I have one non-lemmy.ca account (lemmynsfw.com). I can view lemmy.ca communities fine from my nsfw account and there are no issues in general, but directly using lemmy.ca and using my lemmy.ca account no longer work (as described above). This stuff is beyond my comprehension but if it's only affecting me (which it seems to be based on the lack of other reports) than it's hardly an problem for the instance

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Try another instance on 0.19.4 like https://lemmy.ml/ and see if it happens there too. If so, it's your browser not liking something in the new version =)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! I recreated this issue with Safari and with lemmy.ml on both browsers. I think it's an issue with 0.19.4 interacting with something on my end, as I don't have the issue on any instance that isn't on 0.19.4 (and no other user seems to be affected). As a stop-gap solution, I've setup an account on beehaw.org

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I haven't used github before. I reluctantly updated FireFox to 127 (it was previously 109) and that fixed it. Thanks again =)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I can't help but notice the stark contrast between the rate of improvement to Lemmy vs the glacial pace of work done on Mastodon. Lemmy seems to embrace the "move fast and break things" ethos so much better than Mastodon which just crawls at implementing critical functionality. Which is funny, I follow Dessalines and Gargron on various platforms; Gargron seems like a much more sensible and reasonable and decent person so this is kinda disappointing.

This is a social network. It's recreation. I want you to move fast and break things. That's how Facebook won. You're not going to chase down the gazelle by walking.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

You're not going to chase down the gazelle by walking.

(Sorry, I really like doing analogy analysis for the lulz.)

While that analogy is absolutely true, the amount of prep work (stalking) that goes into that final sprint is super important. Personally, I have no problems with "move fast; break things" unless there isn't an actual direction plotted first. Redundancy can even be implemented quickly, like when animals hunt it packs.

Failure is always an option, but always double the estimated time it takes to do a change of only to account for any unknowns.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I agree with you but I think mastadon has bigger shoes to fill.

Businesses looked at Twitter as a reliable way to communicate with a broad audience. To the point that even police services thought it was good enough.

Mastadon, if it wants to be seen as a replacement needs to be high reliability.

I don't think Lemmy has that expectation. Like there is a user in these comments complaining that we didn't get notice of down time and I'm kinda wondering why he would want that let alone expect it. As you say it's recreation and so I don't need that high level of reliability.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

exactly, also lemmy is is alpha, it can and is going to break things

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Edit: Never mind, the comment scores still exist on desktop, they are just in a ~~worse~~ different place now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

This could be isolated to Connect for Lemmy, but it's worthy to drop here: https://lemmy.ca/post/22945431

Looks like /c/new is showing instead of a community feed and it seems to be isolated to communities on lemmy.world.

It's a strange bug but still something of note as it happened around the same time as the update.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Cool. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Thanks Shadow. So far so good. Seems to have ironed out a few bugs with Photon too.

The entire UI is really evolving and the speed now is blazing! Is this how websites should be if you don’t pack them with telemetry and crypto nonsense?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I’m getting “unknown error” when I try to up vote a post. At least when I use the swipe to up vote feature in Memmy. Maybe Memmy needs an update.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's unfortunate, that's probably the death-knell for Memmy, as it is seemingly not longer maintained, so this error will likely not be fixed

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah thanks, I didn’t realize it wasn’t being maintained. I’ll switch to something else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Thanks for the update but I'd feel better if you had warned us ahead of time.

I lost connection a few times and I panicked and I didn't have a clue what might have happened.

If your update had run into serious problems and everything went down longer than expected, we'd all be in the dark wondering what happened.

It worked out good this time but software problems happen all the time and it might not always work out so good next time.

Otherwise .... I'm still thankful and grateful for the work you and your team do to maintain this service.

Keep up the great work ... it is much appreciated.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Touch grass

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

My man taking Lemmy serious 😅

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

In this case I expected it to be a much faster upgrade than it actually was, so I tried to yolo it. We do have https://status.lemmy.ca/ where normally I post in advance, I'll do that next time =)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Orly? Did you have to merge in a couple patches manually, or did the devs do a rerelease with the regressions fixed?

Regardless, thank you kindly for your continued great work!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They re-released the docker container on the same version number.... (not ideal)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago