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Patrick Breyer, a staunch defender of digital rights, laments the Pirate Party’s exit from the EU Parliament as a blow to online privacy.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 months ago (13 children)

There are more parties who defend internet privacy then just the pirate party. Won't matter much tho with the current rightwing majority.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I wish I could actually vote for the pirate party. But I can't here. Didn't show up in the election list. They were 2 or elections ago

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Sounds like you're the new candidate.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Well, shit, there goes my vote.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Quick reminder that in a liberal democracy, social movements are more important for progressive change than electoralism.

Join a union. Be it trade union, housing union, or whatever (or even any affinity group). And get active.

Complaining about election results achieves nothing, but sow despair.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (14 children)

Also: voting is important because it lets you choose your enemy. Progressive liberals and social democrats won't fight against you as hard as conservatives and fascists.

Putting this here because some people might read this and think "Voting doesn't matter."

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 6 months ago (18 children)

I had somewhat hoped that my fellow countrymen in Germany would not fall for the obtuse populism of the right, but that is exactly what has happened.

I'm afraid there's nothing left to counter this, because voters obviously no longer care about rational arguments and don't even want to acknowledge the real problems of our time. They make it easy for themselves and just blame everything on illegal migration or whatever - just as the right-wingers tell them to do.

In this reality characterized by stupidity and false attributions of blame, it is hardly surprising that important but somewhat abstract topics such as data protection are no longer of interest to the masses. It's enough to make you cry.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

In the whole bad times lead to strong people, which leads to good times, which leads to weak people, which leads to bad times, we're in the weak people leading to bad times stage. Now things need to get bad enough to start making strong people.

Only problem is the fascists are smarter this time and are pushing everywhere, so this time might not have nation states on the good side.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why are you repeating that fascist "strong men create good times" bullshit?

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As an American, it's really sad to see the EU fall into this trap.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The saddest thing about this is that the Europeans and especially the Germans should really know better. But no, all the lessons from our dark history seem to have been forgotten - or they are simply ignored so that one can once again live in the comfortable world of simple explanations where there is always some minority to blame.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tagesschau has a graph showing AFD being the highest % voted party all over eastern Germany and second highest voted nearly everywhere else, following CDU/CSU. You really only see green or red in the larger cities.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I wanted to vote for them, I did so last time, but they didn't appear on the ballot in my country this time. Couldn't vote for them...

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Does the average voter just not care at all about anything actually important? What is even going on here?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We just had a vote for government officials along the EP vote. Less than 60% turned up which means the most common vote was a vote for nothing. The average voter doesn't care.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I managed to convince my brother and a friend of mine to vote for them. This is really disappointing. Over half the votes in Germany were for right-wing parties this time, over 16% were for the right-wing-extremist party AFD. Germany really wants history to repeat itself ig.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 months ago

But at least France is holding its hand this time! 🙃

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

These results are just a drop in the bucket in relation to the grim state of German election results and overall societal discourse.

There's not much room for optimism right now. Very dark skies ahead and things may get much worse before they will become better.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Same in Belgium, how is this the new reality seemingly everywhere???

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Pretty much the same propaganda "package" is being used all over the world.

Governments work hard and spend billions of public money to try to stay in power, they spend these in modern and technological warfare too.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Mass propaganda and some reeeeeaaaaalllly stupid people.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago

and unfortunately czech pirate representatives dropped from three to one :(

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