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CW: Dongs, Blood and Thunder,
So yeah...remember that Roko post from last week where he explained how much men don't need women? Oglaf did it first.
This is Roko's ideal future; Roko's Modern life, if you will. Checkmate, ladies.
(NSFW)
https://www.oglaf.com/dark-miasma/ (part 1 of 24 lol) https://www.oglaf.com/burningjewels/
But nature finds a way:
https://www.oglaf.com/honor/ https://www.oglaf.com/son-of-kronar/ https://www.oglaf.com/son-of-kronar/2/
man will wheaton really turned to the dark side, didn't he?
got told to shut up one too many times. See what happens when you censor people libs?
He did???
"The smile. The optimism. Versus the steely 1000 yard stare.
Ideology preformed in the instant of conception
Physiognomy, simply, does not lie."
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40631663
Orange site post with a bunch of people saying burnout is a learning experience and that its okay to be perpetually depressed because it makes you more disruptive.
I don't have anything clever to say about this.
Oh look, Elon openly snuggling up to Nazis and "just asking questions". As if I didn't hate this clown enough.
(For anyone out of the loop: the AfD is a far-right political party in Germany and the spiritual successor to the NSDAP. They're praising the SS, advocate for legalization of holocaust denial and historical revisionism, removal of hate crimes from the code of law, and more. They're so openly Nazis that they got kicked out of the EU parliament's far-right ID coalition for being too fucking Nazi. There's no leeway. They're literal card-carrying national socialists.)
Notice that he, of course, does not list any of those "policies" that he's "read".
(for mastodon users who don't get the image: it's Andrew Lawrence's "you know the ones" tweet)
he's been openly a nazi propagandist pretty much since he took over twitter. they are hiding black crime stats from you.png, "this is the actual truth," etc. without saying "I am literally a Nazi" or "we should do holocaust" I genuinely don't know how much more open he can be about it
@mii @blakestacey I cannot and will not argue about your points, they're absolutely valid. The words you're using however are not correct. Nazis are fascists, as are these right wing monsters. They are antisocialist, not socialists. They are against socialism and against democracy and only for their own brand of autocracy.
"National socialism" is the term the Nazis invented to describe themselves. "Nazi" is the abbreviation of the term "national socialism". Could be good to know.
@mountainriver Are you really shocked that the name is a lie?
no, nobody here is particularly shocked that fascists would lie about being socialists
also good to point out for someone just finding out about this:
(1) The name is a lie in the same way "the democratic people's republic of north korea" is. So Peckham is absolutely correct that the Nazis hated socialists and were not socialists, as evidenced by the fact that they tried to kill all of them.
(2) The modern version of this lie is pretending the Nazis were socialists, and it's a very common tactic in the far right. So Peckham is correct that we should not call them socialists, it's just that using the term "national socialist" doesn't actually imply you think they are socialists.
(3) They did spring originally from the fusing of former socialist idealogues with the far right. So as with many massively successful lies there is a distant evolutionary relationship to something true.
They want to ban kosher food and circumcision, but love the Israeli government and the war on Gaza, which says... so many things, about so many people.
@mii
I really didn't think the second part of "Those who don't learn history" was going to be so literal.
Maybe I'm missing something.
translation: thinking about this too much, or at all really, would be disastrous for my political ideology and ego, so someone else please waste their time and energy typing up a reply i won't read, so i can continue having the image of an intellectual engaged in vigorous debate without actually having to do anything
Imho that is just plausible deniability, just asking questions style shit. So news papers can keep writing 'his politics are so vague, we don't know' while he keeps unbanning fascists on twitter.
I suspect Elon's pretty comfortable with his political ideology and ego, tbh. But I agree with the second part.
ehh, probably
https://zhukeepa.substack.com/p/ai-alignment-and-the-distributed
This came across the dash and well…
I couldn't remember who Chris Langan was, and mobile search gave me "Chris Langham":
Christopher Langham (born 14 April 1949) is an English writer, actor, and comedian.
No mention of philosophy, but this turned up
On 2 August 2007, Langham was found guilty of 15 charges of downloading and possessing level 5 child sexual abuse images and videos.
OK so maybe the correct person?
No it turns out Langan is the person with "the world's highest IQ".
From the podcast transcript
… if people look up Chris Langan on Wikipedia, under his views section, they'll be like, ah, these are some far right views. The CTMU is obviously not about that, but… anything you want to just fill in for people that might be curious about that part of it?
[...]
When people bring up his political views, I often mention that Heidegger was a Nazi, and that doesn't mean his philosophy should just be dismissed outright. I don't think Chris is remotely a Nazi. In my personal interaction with him, he's been a wonderful person. He's been kind and generous with me, and I respect him personally.
No doubt Himmler's friends and family thought he was a great guy too.
From a brief glance at the CTMU it fits into:
It's fascinating to see people re-invent the same bad eschatology, it's like there's crazed compulsive shaped hole in the heart of man or something.
Wikipedia tells me that Langan says that he can prove the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife, using mathematics ... I feel like there's gonna be some bad Bayes in there somewhere.
I often mention that Heidegger was a Nazi, and that doesn’t mean his philosophy should just be dismissed outright
Very true. It should instead be dismissed because it is the exact sort of reactionary nonsense a craven nazi would try to pass off as philosophical inquiry.
previously featured here, too
I had missed that post, no idea Ben had fallen that far. (Like I knew the psi stuff, not the fanboying of the person people need to 'well not all nazis were bad' things about).
Yeah I realized that as soon as I found the correct result.
So many high-IQ fascists, I get memory buffer overruns.
oh boy
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